On 23/08/2006, at 10:12 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:

Am 23.08.2006 um 00:59 schrieb Jerry W. Walker:

they will save me that time and effort and make PW even more available to the newbies (like me) who haven't yet bought into Eclipse. The easy answer, of course, is for me to just take the Eclipses plunge, but I already took it (over a year ago) and was dissatisfied. I won't take it again until I have more time than I do right now, since it also comes with an expensive learning curve.

Look: I really believe that you are a total WO crack and all. But XCode is D*E*A*D.

Last time I noticed, Apple seemed to be putting a lot of effort into Xcode. Maybe what you mean is that it won't be further developed for Java and WO, but the rest of us are still awaiting Apple's announcement.

I just don't know how to spell this out in more clear terms, but you'll do yourself a favor if you either come to terms with WOLips, switch to IDEA or switch to Tapestry. I'll gladly give you and your people a course in WOLips (inquire for terms, I got rave reviews!) but there is no way in hell I'll spend one second on providing support for XCode users. This would be wasted time all around.

It's a shame you say that, because the reaction could be that Xcode users will just dump Wonder, and it would be a shame to divide the WO community in such a way, or to give Xcode users the impression that Wonder is inaccessible from Xcode.

I think it is more important to get people to Wonder first, and then maybe to Eclipse. But some of us use more than just Java and WO, so have to use Xcode for other things (although I'm not altogether happy with Xcode's support for anything other than C/Unix-style programming, so I'll probably really agree with your grizzles about Xcode although I say all of this with some Zittern).

Ian
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