On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Timmy wrote:

I'm in this boat as well. One of the things that has kept me from moving at this time is just knowing that there's a strong recommendation to really get to know Eclipse before you even try to develop in it.

I don't think it is all that bad. A better statement is probably "spend some time learning about all of the features of Eclipse so you can be even more productive in it". You can do a lot without knowing too much, but you can do it much faster once you learn some of the shortcuts. I have been using it for years and still learn something new every week.


On top of that, I didn't really come from a java development background so all the talk of Maven, Ant, etc. is somewhat intimidating as well when I think of all the new stuff I'm gonna need to understand.

Ant is useful to learn.  Maven is not needed at all.


When there's time I am anxious to begin moving. Might be good if a person in my position were to write the mentioned documentation - not that I'm volunteering yet. :-)

Janine Sisk is also looking at doing this.  Maybe you can collaborate.


Chuck



Tim

On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote:

For some of us it's just always been a matter of familiarity.

I started out using the WOBuilder/EOModeler/Project Builder trinity back in '98 and just never quit using it because I didn't have the time to devote to learning anything else.

Now it looks like Apple is gonna force me to.

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On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Well he'd miss his old friends, but he'd have some new friends!

On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:01 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

I bet that Calven likes all the bugs in EOModeler. He would miss them if he switched to Entity Modeler.

:-P

Chuck


On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

On Dec 11, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Calven Eggert wrote:

I still use EOModeler

boooo
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