Hi,

I changed the subject of the mail because your mail content was no more appropriate ;-)

I completely agree with your mail. In the WO FF session of the last WWDC, I explained that the lack of support of Java Client is a very bad thing for some developpers because we are working on very big projects.

For my part, we have worked on several applications with Java Client for a very well known bank. And there is a big project in France involving 50 universities. There is a web site (http:// www.cocktail.org) only in french. The home page lists a part of applications developed with Java Client and there are a lot ... And there is a developer in this team who makes incredible stuff with Java Client.

The Apple WO team needs to know how Java Client is used. So the best thing is to send an email to Pierre Frisch, the manager of WO team with a description of the project. And if you are allowed to speak publicly about your project, please, send it to the list too.

Philippe Rabier

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Subject: Re: Java Client refuses to use Client-Side classes once
        deployed
To: Robert Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Development WebObjects <[email protected]>
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Hi all,


There seems to be a lack of distinction in different ways to use WO
JavaClients. It seems that most people see this being done as either
the direct or non-direct approaches described by Apple. BUT, there is
another approach that does not utilize large portions of WO's
JavaClient support code, where most trouble comes from.

This approach comes down to using client side EOF only for data
persistence, within any kind of a Java app. There is no D2JC auto-
generated GUI, rule systems, translations from nib to Swing etc. All
the places where WO's JavaClient capabilities become difficult and
error prone.

I feel it is important to point this out, as the whole "dropping of
WO Java Client" by either Apple or users of it, can imply different
things:

1. Dropping direct-to stuff
2. Dropping Nib to Swing
3. Dropping ALL of the JavaClient code including data distribution
classes

The first two causes most of the trouble (IMHO), but dropping it does
not have to imply dropping the third. I also think that part of the
JC code base is relatively small, not difficult to maintain, and yet
opens a door for WO to be used in a not very popular, but powerful way.

I know that I am speaking for a very small percentage of a very small
community, but I hope Apple has mercy on us there.

Two cents,
Flor

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