On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:

I understand this problem quite well but I just curious of how much code is out there.

I am fairly certain that we have some other stuff using the format binding. We use NSTimestampFormatter in about 95% of our code. It is all pretty concentrated, so updating this will not be too painful.


I personally have moved out of NSTimestampFormatter a long time ago so I am probably a bad judge.

I think that is probably true. :-) I think the people to keep in mind are not the power users, but the people with less experience. There are probably more of them and they are more likely to use this and the format binding and will have more trouble making this change. Add to that the large number of applications using this class and the need to do something much more than just recompile and test and the "cost" of a better solution starts to look really worth while.


I will have a look into the problem but I cannot guarantee anything.

I (and I am guessing this is getting obvious) really think that there should be a bridge in place, as simple as it might be. Please.

Chuck


On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:47, Mike Schrag wrote:

Having NSTimestampFormatter as a "symbol translating sub-class" would ease the pain of transition for many.
Yeah, this is what I'm proposing as well ... I feel Pierre's pain with not wanting to rewrite and maintain deprecated code, but I fear WO becoming what everyone hates about Tapestry, which is that it goes through huge breaking revisions every release. There is a large base of legacy apps, and especially if there are relatively straightforward deprecation routes, it would be better to not break than to break, I think (this is obviously subject to a religious debate, I suspect). I'm especially wary of breaking changes that just break semantics rather than syntax. In this case, it's breaking the interpretation of random strings inside of WODs, which will make for a really annoying fix. Alternatively, I suppose someone could write a conversion app to convert all the old style into new style, but that only partially addresses the issue.

ms

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