And I have switched a WO 5.2.4 plain app now to WO 5.3 + Wonder and it feels
much "slickier". With WO 5.2.4 you have to cope with framwork quirks and now
they are almost gone (look mom, no hacks anymore;-)).

Wonder in the early days was an all or nothing thing, but with 3.0 it was
"fixed" ;-)

Oliver

P.S.: And I only use ERExtensions/Jars (no prototypes, no Wonder EO
tempates, no ERXKeys, no wognl (yet ;-)).

> Von: Archibald Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Datum: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:20:06 -0300
> An: AppleWO List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
> 
> +1
> 
> I've tried the newbie path both w/ and w/o Wonder. Based on my
> experience, I definitely recommend using WOnder.
> 
> My experience is that WOnder didn't add much complexity to the
> learning curve.
> 
> *On the contrary*, I think it makes things simpler (while making some
> of the broken stuff Just Work (tm) too).
> Truth is, it does requires more *work* since you need to learn more,
> but it's worth it.
> 
> Also for now, I'd also suggest sticking with WO 5.3.x instead of WO
> 5.4.x.
> 
> = tmk =
> 
> On 20 Mar 2008, at 17:28, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> Like, for example, you are using WebObjects?
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:
>> 
>>> I would totally disagree with that. Wonder introduce another layer
>>> of complexity and patching on top of WO. I think you should only
>>> use Wonder if you have a good reason for it.
>>> 
>>> Pierre
>>> --
>>> Pierre Frisch
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:56, David LeBer wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> For a new WO developer, I think there are amazing benefits for
>>> starting with Wonder.
> 
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