Hello;
Have you looked at Borland JBuilder, it is what I use on OS X.
Don
On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Robert Walker wrote:
I realize that I'm probably in a minority here, but I am not looking
forward to Java, of any sort, coming to the iPhone. If you're
interested in writing iPhone applications, use the native iPhone SDK
and build a "real" iPhone application. Objective C is not that far a
leap from Java and you would have native access it all the iPhone
APIs.
The fear I have of Java coming to the iPhone is that if it exists,
people might think about using it. I've felt the same way about
desktop applications to be honest. The only time I ever choose to
use a Java application on the desktop is when there's absolutely no
other choice. However, I do understand the appeal of "write once,
run anywhere." In practice, though, it generally makes for a less
than stellar user experience.
For example, I've been less than impressed with any Java based IDE
I've used. I'm amazed at what the developers have been able to
accomplish with these IDEs, but every time I open one I wish it was
a native application. I miss the responsiveness of Xcode and wish
there existed a Mac OS X native IDE that understood the Java
language to the depth of Eclipse or NetBeans. I'm not holding my
breath waiting for one though.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll see Java come to the iPhone, I just hope it
is made clear for any apps using it so that I can avoid them. I
wouldn't want anyone installing a Java VM on my iPhone without
making it very clear that it's happening.
On Mar 9, 2008, at 12:05 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
Java Client on the iPhone/iPod Touch could be really cool, but
without custom UI extensions to deal with the touch interface, I
think you'll end up with a very non-Touch feel and therefor alien-
feeling app. Sure it would be functional, but not really a "Touch"
application. Now, with Swing/SWT/Whatever-Touch extensions, that
has possibilities...
As far as Direct To Java Client, unfortunately I think it is all
but dead. It's deprecated, even though I've had some success
getting it running under 5.4.1, it is no longer supported and the
number of people out there using it numbers in the handful.
D2JC was wonderful and I'm really not looking forward to building
every piece of my JC UI from scratch, but I think it's time to move
on, to more robust and supported Java Client technologies. Florijan
Stamenkovic's, Paulo Sommaruga's or similar new JC framework
should really be at the core of any WO Java Client app moving
forward.
Dave
On Mar 8, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Baiss Eric Magnusson wrote:
Subject: Re: State of WO Java Client
To: Development WebObjects <[email protected]>
Your templates are converted and posted!
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2655245
What's the word on JBND's WO 5.4.1 compatibility? Any issues that
you
know of?
Dave
Any thoughts from out there on running DTJC on the iPhone.
I spent three months with DTJC and although the project went
nowhere it was interesting to experience the native client feel.
Sun announced they were going to make a J2ME for the iPhone.
Objective-C might be more fun but that seems too much of a stretch.
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Baiss Eric Magnusson
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