Greetings Mike and all,
I tend to agree with Guido that SOAP can be a real bitch as far all of the WSDL and other services to make SOAP interpretable. Although, SOAP, JSON, and protocols from Globus tend to be the way to go for service-to-service communication. JSON-RPC is a tried method for browser bound interfacing such as AJAX.

As for JSON-RPC, I was reminded on the WebKit and Cooca mailing lists the other day that JSKit may be an alternative non-GUI Cocoa apps. For me that can be useful in the context of clusters or grids. In this case, JSON-RPC would become a very useful channel.

The jury is still out on WONDER-Actions, but as long as the callback function holds then Project WONDER's AjaxUpdates provides a pseudo-web- service channel for AJAX implemented interfaces. It is kind of a cheat, but it is a plausible alternate channel when one of the actors in the interface is a human using a GUI.

That does remind me to check with Mike for links to the current documentation on Ajax Updates. In particular, Mike would you send me a link to regarding the update completion methods. You mentioned there was one binding that adds a string to the end of the update. This could be useful for an example that adds a JavaScript function to the page, which in turn calls a callback function in the AJAX already loaded on the page.

Thank you,
Dan




On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

About 6 years ago when I tried to get SOAP working in WO with a cocoa client, I had nothing but nightmares. This has probably improved since then, but because I like the above design pattern, haven't bothered to try it out again.

That sums up my experience quite well, only it was about 5 years ago - and again in the late WO 5.3 times ...
I haven't looked into this since Leopard came out, but Andrew and I have both posted info on WO<=>Cocoa SOAP services:

http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Web+Services-Web+Service+Provider
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Web+Services-Integration+with+WebServicesCore+on+MacOS-X

For me, the bigger problem with SOAP services on Cocoa was the crappy generated code on the client side more than server issues.

ms

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