On 22/07/2008, at 8:04 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

one of the things that frustrates me about generics is working with collections.
Just that one? Generics are the worst thing since Windows 3.11 ... I try to keep my code clean and add generics where they make sense but I hate them. There is absolutely NO GAIN in using them, just annoyance.
Yes, there is added complexity, but "no gain" I really disagree with. Your API's become much clearer when you use them, and especially with a big framework like WO, knowing what objects are coming back out of methods is really helpful.

Yep I agree that it's really useful. But it seems like in a framework you need to duplicate each method to allow interaction within the framework as well as from without :-/
e.g.,
public CustomSet<? extends AbstractType> recordSet();
public CustomSet<AbstractType> _recordSet();
Not sure what you mean here. I've never had to do this. It should only require the "? extends" variant.

Example:
public class AbstractEntity
{

        public void addAll... (NSArray<AbstractB> foo);
}

Application can't call the method. Incompatible. So you change it to:
public void addAll... (NSArray<? extends AbstractB> foo);

Now you iterate through foo (within addAll in the framework), but now you can't call
public void add(AbstractB foo) or something.

It's like pulling a string... you never find the end ;-)

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck
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