OK, so they are being ignorant bog trotters then ... and since I am actually genuine born-and-raised Irish (not fake "I-am-Irish-because- mygreat-great-great-whatever-came-her-from-Ireland"), I can use that term with freeness of speech and without any prejudice ;-)

On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote:


On 21/08/2008, at 09:57, Simon McLean wrote:

Oh dear It looks like Nilton has one of those embarrassing conversations coming where you have to some how politely point out to a paying client that they are in fact being a dick.
Yes Simon, exactly the case....

:-) In this report there are pearls like : "Webobjects is a framework in disuse". ...sigh....




Ah, just tell them they are a bunch of ignorant bog trotters!  ;-)

Well, OK ... seriously ... isn't that what the garbage collector does??!!! It calls finalize() to release resources and destroys objects to reclaim memory ..... are these seasoned java programmers or just some Windoze-keyboard-prodding IT guys trying to guard their turf, keep their jobs, impress the boss and play "beat the vendor up"?!!

So they have determined that the garbage collector is calling the finalize() method of objects ....... wow .... just like the Java 1.5 API says (am I missing something here? .... please someone correct *me* if *I* am the ignorant bog trotter!)

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html


<Object (Java 2 Platform SE 5.0)-1.png>

BTW, did they ever hear of the iTunes Music Store which runs on WebObjects platform? ... I think that is a pretty good testimonial.

On Aug 21, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Nilton Lessa wrote:

Hi list,

We are running in discussions with some IT guys of one of our clients that are criticizing us for the use of WO.

Some of the arguments are pure rubish and not a problem at all. But one of the points they are stating is that, by the analysys of the garbage collector ,they are detecting the use of finalize() methods that, by ther judgement, is "bad practice", and harm the GC.

We don't call directly any finalize() in our methods.

Could anybody provide us with some opinion about this issue?

- where are the finalize() methods?(EOF, Wonder, ?)
- how this use could affect GC perfomance?
- is it a valid point "per se"?

Thanks in advance for help.

Bests regards,



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