On 31-Mar-09, at 1:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

But I've found that common generic java programmers that I've hired are uncomfortable with the foundation collection classes - and perhaps understandably so - they've been brought up and trained to use java collections.

The Orthodox Church of Java has ruined a couple of generations of potentially good developers so far.

*sigh* I know -and now I'm in the weird position of arguing FOR generic java - something I've (almost) never done before. But we are in the progress of open sourcing our software and therefore, we need to use standard java wherever possible :-/

That sucks serious horse****, as we say in Icelandic.
I don't know what the actual icelandic saying is, but I have mentally filled in quite a few words, all of which are appropriate and funny to varying degrees :)

yeah, is the number of stars *exactly* replacing letters? That would at least narrow it down!

eyes
tail
nose

I can see we could use some nice collection classes here. :-)

d


ms

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