LOL... thanks for the feeling. Im serious about WO, but I can't travel that easily to the States. Os my only source of info its PWO, apple docs, and the list... oh yes and my motivation to keep going. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM, David LeBer <[email protected]>wrote:
> On 14-May-09, at 6:24 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > >> Le 09-05-14 à 05:24, Timo Hoepfner a écrit : >> >> Hi Gustavo, >>> >>> nevertheless, if you can wait a few weeks, I'd wait for the new >>> validation framework that Chuck announces in his WOWODC session description. >>> >>> There is another validation framework, that wasn't mentioned yet: >>> http://code.google.com/p/houdah-webobjects-frameworks/wiki/HoudahEOValidation >>> >> >> ... which was explained at WOWODC 2008 :-) >> > > The moral of this story being: If you are serious about using WebObjects > you should attend WOWODC! :-) > > > >> Timo >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 14.05.2009 um 10:41 schrieb Gustavo Pizano: >>> >>> I wish I can... :( . Im in Slovakia... and can't go the WOWODC. I >>>> missing all the good stuff.... >>>> >>>> Maybe I will be buying the videos after the WOWODC.. if there are gonna >>>> be posted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Timo Hoepfner <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Maybe visiting WOWODC would make your life much easier: >>>> >>>> >>>> --- snip --- >>>> >>>> EOF Validation: The Next Generation >>>> Speaker : Chuck Hill >>>> >>>> Validation is one of the least satisfactory parts of WebObjects. It >>>> shows signs of promise and of abandonment, like a prototype left >>>> uncompleted. We will start with a survey of the state of validation in >>>> WebObjects and the extensions found in Wonder's core ERExtensions >>>> frameworks; the seldom used Validity framework; and in the GVC >>>> EOFValidation >>>> framework. We will then dive in to take a look at EOF validation "deep >>>> under >>>> the covers" focusing on the mechanics of how it can be extended. We will >>>> then define the functionality that will make the next generation of >>>> validation for WebObjects and examine an implementation. >>>> >>>> With a validation roadmap in place and a highly functional validation >>>> base available, we will turn our attention to the WOComponent presentation >>>> layer. Here, too, validation handling leaves much to be desired and the >>>> functionality is not clear. We will look at the often ignored validation >>>> handling in WOComponent and how it quickly breaks down. We separate >>>> WOComponents into two categories, Pages and PageComponents, and get them to >>>> co-operate in handling validation. The result will be a page that can >>>> orchestrate validation handling, including handling optimistic locking >>>> exceptions equally whether they occur within one EOF stack or across >>>> instances. This will allow us to create drop-in components that can handle >>>> their own validation in a co-operative fashion with the page. As with >>>> validation, a functional, documented foundation will be supplied. >>>> >>>> In this session you will learn: >>>> >>>> how WebObjects validation is implemented >>>> how WebObjects validation can be extended >>>> how to make working with validation easier >>>> how validation handling was intended to work with WOComponent >>>> how to bring working validation handling to WOComponent >>>> how to detect optimistic locking exceptions within one EOF stack >>>> how to handle all optimistic locking exceptions >>>> how to use inheritance and composition to make validation handling and >>>> presentation painless >>>> how to contribute to the future of EOF validation >>>> The result of this session will be the release of two new frameworks for >>>> WebObjects validation (one for the EOF layer and one for the WOComponent >>>> presentation layer). These frameworks will be written to be independent of >>>> other frameworks (including Project Wonder) so everyone will be able to use >>>> and benefit from them. These frameworks will be functional, but there will >>>> be areas where additional functionality can be added (such as support for >>>> additional databases). The intention is that these will get completed by >>>> others in the community. >>>> >>>> --- snip --- >>>> >>>> From http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc09/west/topics.html#validation >>>> >>>> Timo >>>> >>>> Am 14.05.2009 um 09:36 schrieb Gustavo Pizano: >>>> >>>> HEllo, after reading, the Validation Chapter on the PWO, at the end >>>> Chick mention validity as an alternative... now, Im planing and designing >>>> the whole implementation and strategy to follow. prior start coding.. I >>>> want >>>> to ask if using Validity will make my life easier,.. or in the other hadnt >>>> I >>>> should use the "Practical Solution" that they mention on the book... Pros. >>>> Cons... Im still little confused with the subject, but I think I understand >>>> most of the "stack call" that happens in the insights of the EOF when >>>> validation occurs. >>>> >>>> Thanks to PWO and the EOF PG >>>> >>>> Gustavo >>>> >>> > ;david > > -- > David LeBer > Codeferous Software > 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' > site: http://codeferous.com > blog: http://davidleber.net > profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber > twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld > -- > Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: > http://tacow.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com > > This email sent to [email protected] >
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