On Sep 16, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
On 17/09/2009, at 12:52 PM, John Ours wrote:
On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
On the path to WO 5.4.3 over 2007/2008, and simply when I'm trying
to understand specific behaviours, not having the source-code was/
is quite annoying -- I would have thought that it would be
beneficial for Apple to have all of us being able to submit
suggested solutions into Radar rather than just problems.
But as a practical matter you surely have the tools (JD) to inspect
the code when necessary. Given the state of documentation, there
really is no other choice. Granted have the actual source would be
more convenient.
Significantly more convenient and useful for looking through /
understanding the code .. there'd even be comments found!
I'd be willing to bet against that. :-)
Chuck
Real engineering problems however are, in my opinion, dwarfed by
the political issues around having no source-access and releases
managed as "surprises" to the user base.
The lack of a clear road map is frustrating but IMO that's a
separate issue from it being closed source. Open source projects
still have delayed releases, features that are slow to materialize,
rejected patches, etc. But forking an entire project isn't
something that's done lightly so we live with it, the same way we
live with these things from a closed-source vendor.
Don't get me wrong, I'd welcome WO as open source in a minute...I'm
just saying I can see why they haven't done it,
I can too.
Hey it's got a lot of years behind it, lots of money. It also takes
a concerted effort to open-source something and continue to back it.
It's not just a matter of changing the licence either. Lawyers cost
money, so consider the irony. Hey we want to open-souce this thing
and... they've started counting their seven minute increments
already. Companies open-source things (like IBM) when they're
putting lots of resources behind it in order to get some pay back.
and I don't think the source would necessarily have much impact on
the community.
This I don't agree with.
with regards,
--
Lachlan Deck
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