On 19Oct2009, at 1:41 PM, David LeBer wrote:
... I am seeing this on my dev machine ...

Hey David!

What do you see when you run the code that was posted before?
Here's what I see.

Marks-MacBook:~ mark$ cat DateTest.java
class DateTest {
        public static void main(String args[]) {
                java.util.Calendar now = java.util.Calendar.getInstance();
                System.out.println(now.getTimeZone());
                System.out.println(now.getTime());
        }
}
Marks-MacBook:~ mark$ javac DateTest.java
Marks-MacBook:~ mark$ java DateTest
sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id="America/ Los_Angeles ",offset = -28800000 ,dstSavings = 3600000 ,useDaylight=true,transitions=185,lastRule=java.util.SimpleTimeZone [id=America/ Los_Angeles ,offset = -28800000 ,dstSavings = 3600000 ,useDaylight = true ,startYear = 0 ,startMode = 3 ,startMonth = 2 ,startDay = 8 ,startDayOfWeek = 1 ,startTime = 7200000 ,startTimeMode = 0 ,endMode =3,endMonth=10,endDay=1,endDayOfWeek=1,endTime=7200000,endTimeMode=0]]
Mon Oct 19 14:35:17 PDT 2009
Marks-MacBook:~ mark$
Marks-MacBook:~ mark$ date
Mon 19 Oct 2009 14:35:29 PDT

And for the record, I agree with Chuck!
Strictly speaking my not be a WO issue however still important. ;-)
M.
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