> Unfortunatelly, I am not able to swim without my WOBuoy.
> But if I could swim like you do, I would I jumped from the WOBoat long time 
> ago .
... also ... "boooooo". everyone on this list could switch at any time to any 
other technology, but we don't because we aren't satisfied with the overall 
package of the alternatives (for any number of reasons). that doesn't mean that 
there aren't great ideas in other frameworks that we can steal from.

ms
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