She has never been able to access it from that machine, except through Monitor. 
 I have never understood why.  We have rebooted.  She is on an internal router. 
 I am not sure how to find the external IP address assigned to her connection.


On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

> Can she connect to www.playhousecomedy.com from that machine?
> 
> Is this the machine's IP address?
> 
> Have you rebooted the machine?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Andrew R. Kinnie wrote:
> 
>> Well I have no explanation.
>> 
>> I thought it might be that apache needed to be restarted, so I did, then 
>> opened a new tab and the old site appeared in a recently visited panel of 
>> "Top Sites" (even though previously the new site was there), but I clicked 
>> on it, and it still doesn't load.
>> 
>> I don't even know what files or configurations to change.  I vaguely 
>> remember doing things in those files years ago, but not since.  No one else 
>> would have done anything.  Perhaps the dynamic dns app isn't updating or 
>> something.
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> Apache is not running (probably not true)
>>> or
>>> Apache is not listening to www.playhousecomedy.com:80
>>> or
>>> they have blocked port 80
>>> or 
>>> that domain name is getting mapped to a different  machine
>>> 
>>> Someone changed something.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Andrew R. Kinnie wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am not at the server or even in the same state, so all I got was a 
>>>> message that Safari cannot find the server.
>>>> 
>>>> Safari can’t open the page “http://www.playhousecomedy.com/” because the 
>>>> server where this page is located isn’t responding.
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What error message do you get from the URL that does not work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Andrew R. Kinnie wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> All I did was have her:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. copy the existing database (it's Openbase)
>>>>>> 2. change the name of the existing .woa
>>>>>> 3. drop the new one into the same place
>>>>>> 4. bounced the app in Monitor
>>>>>> It didn't run.
>>>>>> 5. change one table from the old name to the new name (user to person) . 
>>>>>> . . I had forgotten to do that.
>>>>>> It claimed that it ran, then threw an exception (still looking for 
>>>>>> "user") then quit.
>>>>>> 6. bounced the database in Openbase.
>>>>>> Still didn't run.
>>>>>> I then deleted the new .woa and the zipped version, and renamed the old 
>>>>>> ones to the correct name.
>>>>>> The old app ran and she could access it via the link.  No one can from 
>>>>>> the outside.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The url on the server is 
>>>>>> http://her-computer-name.local/cgi-bin/WebObjects/PlayhouseComedy.woa/1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This works on her machine.  It points to (via dynamic dns) a zoneedit 
>>>>>> domain.  playhousecomedy.com is the domain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This machine has been serving this site in this configuration for years, 
>>>>>> and I didn't create it and have never had to touch it.  I did at one 
>>>>>> point update WO to 5.4.3 and previously dropped in updated .woas (but 
>>>>>> not since I've gone to eclipse and WOLips)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She's running Tiger client, and would be willing to have me SSH in . . . 
>>>>>> if I knew how to open that up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Andrew R. Kinnie wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I made the terrible mistake of trying to deploy the new version of 
>>>>>>>> my site, complete with migrations and D2W and it failed to do anything 
>>>>>>>> (not quite true, it actually runs but immediately threw a JDBC 
>>>>>>>> exception).  I then tried to redeploy the old version while I figured 
>>>>>>>> this out.  (basically, I re-named the old .woa then renamed it back 
>>>>>>>> after the failed deploy, then bounced the app in Monitor.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The old app runs on the server.  She can click the link to load it, 
>>>>>>>> run it, do what she needs to do, etc.  However, the outside world 
>>>>>>>> can't access it.  No configuration files whatsoever were changed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyone have any ideas what could cause the app to run and be usable on 
>>>>>>>> the server, by a user of the server, but not by the outside world?  
>>>>>>>> With no changes to the apache files or anything else?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Something changed.  Did you upgrade OS X?  What URL works?  What URL 
>>>>>>> does not?  What error message do you get from the one that does not 
>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific 
>>>>>>> problems.    
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>>>> 
>>>>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
>>>>> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
>>>>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
>>> 
>>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
>>> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
>>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development
> 
> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall 
> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.    
> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
> 
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