I would love to, but the logs are almost 1 GB a day with sparse logging... not 
enough space on the machine.

On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

> it's in the exception message, i believe ... I would also turn on adaptor 
> debugging so you see the exact sql each instance thinks it's sending so you 
> can match these up to what ends up in the db.
> 
> On Sep 24, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
> 
>> It's a good question, and one I can probably check for when the exception 
>> happens.  Will that be in the optimistic lock exception?  Or do I have to 
>> hunt for it?
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>> 
>>> just to make sure -- does the database have the new value and the snapshot 
>>> has the old, or vice versa?
>>> 
>>> ms
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's Oracle RAC, so yes, a cluster.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I'm REALLY sure it's single threaded.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, no way for someone else to change those rows, since we audit the 
>>>> tables with a trigger, and they weren't modified by anything else. 
>>>> 
>>>> The data type of the trans_id column is Number (12,0)
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> What kind of DB are you using? Is it a single server, or a cluster?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you REALLY sure it's single threaded (although that should not make a 
>>>>> difference, because OL doesn't work anyway ;) )?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you REALLY sure no other app, person, alien, cosmic ray, etc, is 
>>>>> changing the conflicting rows at the same time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Not my suggestion, but really good point ;) ) What is the data type of 
>>>>> the column you use for locking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Miguel Arroz
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010/09/24, at 16:56, Ken Anderson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have an odd problem I'm wondering if anyone else has seen before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have apps that do high throughput processing of data - many times a 
>>>>>> second.  It is single threaded, and uses a single EOF stack.  I'm sure 
>>>>>> it's single threaded because the requests are coming in via an inbound 
>>>>>> queue, not any kind of front end.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every once in a while under significantly high load, I get a few 
>>>>>> optimistic lock exceptions in a row, on rows that are only being touched 
>>>>>> by this app.  We audit every update, and I can look into the audit 
>>>>>> tables and verify that nothing else has modified the record except this 
>>>>>> app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's almost like the snapshot has not been recorded properly before the 
>>>>>> next request is processed, so EOF thinks something else updated the 
>>>>>> value.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Our locking is implemented on a single column, trans_id, which is 
>>>>>> updated with every save.  The audit table also saves the trans_id that's 
>>>>>> responsible for moving the record into audit, and all the values match 
>>>>>> in succession.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone had anything like this happen?  Running 5.4.3 on Linux.  and 
>>>>>> no... no Wonder.
>>>>>> 
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