This seems like a good idea, amazingly good if you consider who it came from!  
:-P


On Sep 30, 2010, at 2:50 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I think that the way to handle this, along with other "If we make it right, 
> it's going to break existing code" issues is going to be 100% dependent upon 
> how the UI of the dev tools handles this.
> 
> 1) Models/Entities/Attributes need to have a concept of deprecation. Maybe 
> use the UserInfo dictionary? (user info of the prototype has 
> "deprecated=true" and "deprecatedNote=reason" in it?)

User info seems a reasonable place to start.


> 2) Entity Modeler displays a validation warning on open and save if you are 
> using a deprecated prototype.

Need to get Mr. Schrag to buy into that one.

> 3) In Entity Modeler, when you switch a Prototype, it clears out all existing 
> attribute properties and sets them to the properties of the new prototype.

Hmmm, all?  That seems undesirable.  I need to re-enter the column name?  An 
auto generated migration would be cool.


> 4) _Entity.java EOGenerator template needs to pick up that a given class 
> attribute is using a deprecated prototype and have it deprecate the 
> getter/setters (and include the depreationNote in the Javadoc) in the 
> _MyEntity class

(1) and (4) we could do right now.  (4) won't work for anyone using custom 
templates (unless they update those templates).


> What this would mean for this situation is that we create 2 new Prototypes 
> DateOnly and DateWithTime and deprecate Date. The next time someone opens 
> their project that uses the deprecated Date prototype they'll get a warning 
> on their Model telling them that the Date prototype they are using has been 
> deprecated, and the next time they EOGenerate the getters/setters will be 
> deprecated as well. Any methods that use them will show as deprecated and 
> have the deprecationNote from the UserInfo in the mouse-over , e.g., 
> "mySetter uses a deprecated prototype in the model. You should use either 
> DateOnly or DateWithTime instead of Date as the Date prototype is horribly 
> broken and likely doesn't do what you think it does." 
> 
> I think this would allow for making changes without breaking anything, yet 
> encourage people to switch to the new prototypes.
> 
> Dave

I bet your kid just grabbed your laptop and typed this.  No way you could come 
up with an idea like this. 


Chuck



> On Sep 30, 2010, at 3:03 AM, Simon wrote:
> 
>>> Calendar dates should not be represented by NSTimestamp.  The Date 
>>> prototype is wrong for using it IMHO.
>> 
>> i couldn't agree more. but where do we go from here ?
>> 
>> 1) leave the mysql date prototype as it is now, broken and unusable
>> 
>> 2) patch the mysql date prototype so that it works properly, but still
>> mapped to NSTimestamp so that we don't break everyone in the world who
>> is using it as an NSTimestamp
>> 
>> 3) change the mysql date prototype completely (i'm a fan of plain old
>> int's) and put up with the flack from the people we break!
>> 
>> 4) alternatively i guess we could just add a new mysql prototype (e.g.
>> intDate) .... ?
>> 
>> simon
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