I think he had to take a break from reading the list; his lips were starting to 
hurt too much.

<rimshot/>


On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

> Ba-dum-cha! (^_^) I'm surprised you beat Dave A to the punch Hugi.  I wonder 
> if he's off to Niue for the holidays?
> 
> On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> OUCH!
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:
>> 
>>> Must remember to check out that framework. I assume it
>>> provides persistence for C3POJOs?
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:08:16 -0500
>>> Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> (^_^)
>>>> 
>>>> My d2w framework. The main goals of it are fully
>>>> validating markup,  full localization, and accessibility.
>>>> The head revision uses a few  things that are only
>>>> available on the 5.4 branch (ERXLinkButton) ...  as well
>>>> as 5.4 things like generic NSSelectors, so it's 5.4 only.
>>>> Not  really for the feint of heart since it's subject to
>>>> radical changes at  my whim, but feel free to use
>>>> whatever parts of it you like.
>>>> 
>>>> Ramsey
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> wuz iz 'diz R2D2W ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "committer" (sorry, that was iPhone auto-correction
>>>> changed it to
>>>>>> committee)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And this is your web page that will get you a free
>>>> JRebel OSS
>>>>>> license:
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/users/nullterminated/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JRebel license is free to people who work on open
>>>> source projects.
>>>>>>> See JRebel site for details. IIRC you just email them
>>>> and provide
>>>>>>> a link to the sourceforge page or whatever that shows
>>>> you are
>>>>>>> committee to OSS. ... and Ramsey, you are :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards, Kieran.
>>>>>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ramsey Gurley
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Jesse,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but why are you
>>>> restarting
>>>>>>>> you app in debug mode?  If you make a code change in
>>>> debug, you
>>>>>>>> should see the change after you save without needing
>>>> to restart
>>>>>>>> the app.  If you make a change that requires you to
>>>> restart the
>>>>>>>> app, you should see a window similar to
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <Picture 2.png>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There's even some JRebel thing that plugs into
>>>> eclipse so you
>>>>>>>> almost never need to restart the app, although I've
>>>> never played
>>>>>>>> with it.  I heard it wasn't free, so I haven't
>>>> bothered to try it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ramsey
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HA! thanks - that's what I do now, isn't there a
>>>> way that
>>>>>>>>> running an app closes any you were running before
>>>> or am I just
>>>>>>>>> janitor on this for eclipse?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <stop_app.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> that's nothing!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I still haven't figured how to tell eclipse to
>>>> stop the app
>>>>>>>>>>> before re-running it while I'm debugging, so I
>>>> always get a
>>>>>>>>>>> port error and have to click little red x's
>>>> before I can
>>>>>>>>>>> continue.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> is there a little arrow icon for me?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, feeling really dumb right now. That's just
>>>> what I wanted,
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Miguel Arroz
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2010/12/27, at 15:38, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the top of your WO Explorer is a yellow
>>>> double arrow.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you click that, whatever is open in your editor
>>>> window will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be become selected and visible in your WO
>>>> Explorer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Picture 2.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Miguel Arroz
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It happens to me all the time opening a
>>>> document in Eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using Apple-shift-T, and later needing to find
>>>> that very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same file on WO Explorer (the bar on the
>>>> left). I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love some plugin that would add a "Show file
>>>> in explorer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> item to the editor contextual menu. Is there
>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that already done?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miguel Arroz
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