FWIW, once you reach that level scaling on *anything* is hard. Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:02 AM, d...@druware.com wrote: > Well, the issue I have in general is that the market seems to have adopted a > MySQL or commercial mindset. MySQL is, to put it mildly, a trap. Skipping > over the license issues, and going straight to the real stuff, MySQL has been > shown repeatedly to have very real and finite limits on growth and > scalability. Google, twitter, facebook, etc have all built foundations on > MySQL only to hit walls, and implement obscenely expensive workarounds. > > The problem is that the alternatives do not cater to the web dev platform, > and they lose in the "startup" phases despite long term advantages. LAMP has > become a liability. Too many people assume with knowing, and it is killing > techs like WO. > > It gets worse when you mix in python and coredata/sqllite. Ever used apple's > teams wiki server. Uggh, what a mess. It will come full circle. I still > have a coup,e WO projects but most of my new work is objective c or c++ cgi > implementation. It is fast, scalable, portable, and I do not have to deal > with 10 layers of stack to make things work. > > I love WO, I hate the scripting environments, and .net is an equal disaster > to LAMP. Basically, the web toolkits have gotten worse, not better. > > > > > -- Sent from my HP TouchPad > On Jul 25, 2011 11:51 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net> wrote: > FrontBase is pretty quiet these days too, though the dev list does see some > traffic and there are new releases. Marketing a proprietary SQL database > these days is swimming upstream, you can't expect wide success. FrontBase > fills a niche market, of which WO is probably less and less every year. As > long as their goal is to target their niche (and they do so well), they will > keep going. Neither FrontBase or OpenBase are ever going to replace MySQL. > > > On 2011-07-25, at 8:45 PM, Tim Worman wrote: > > > Now that right there IS funny. But if no one were on the list to see that > > and laugh, then I'd have to develop in something other than WO. :-) > > > > Tim Worman > > UCLA GSE&IS > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:36 PM, John Huss wrote: > > > >> I don't know what I would do if I was using some proprietary technology > >> that hadn't been updated in years, with almost no communication from the > >> company in charge of it! What is that like? ;-) > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com> wrote: > >> Openbase has been a great product from day one. And integrating it with WO > >> definitely is seamless. I'm a fan. But the developer list has fallen > >> completely silent and it used to be vibrant. The product hasn't had any > >> public updates since 2009 - I don't think it is because there is nothing > >> to do. > >> > >> I'm in no hurry at all to move my server but I do have to develop against > >> something and that can't be Openbase if I'm running Lion. The tweet > >> indicating that a beta has been "released" is one of only two from the > >> company since Feb 2010. > >> > >> Tim Worman > >> UCLA GSE&IS > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com > >> > >> This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > > > > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dru%40druware.com > > This email sent to d...@druware.com > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/tbritt%40phigment.org > > This email sent to tbr...@phigment.org
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