Yep, all depends on the number of potential collisions you care about. In 
semi-controlled environments you can make do with fewer bits of uniqueness. 

tb

On Aug 19, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:

> how about those modern looking bit.ly type id's ?
> 
> seems like you can take the key or counter value and mod your way through a 
> set of characters and build up a super-short id - no?
> 
> I have ERRest doing my work right now, but I'll be wanting to email URLs to 
> the web app and figured I'd prefer not to show id's but rather could use a 
> counter like bit.ly urls and I haven't yet looked into that.
> 
> Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 19, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Travis Britt wrote:
> 
>> You're close to a real uuid at that point. The common problem is multiple 
>> instance coordination, can be a lot easier just to have the DB assign a 
>> unique value since you're probably coordinating there anyway. But it all 
>> depends on your app, your db, your scaling characteristics, how many 
>> potential collisions you're willing to risk….
>> 
>> http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/UUID.html
>> 
>> tb
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Travis-
>>> 
>>> Is it impractical?
>>> 
>>> I've used a simple date+rand constructor and ran it through an encoding to 
>>> HEX to get a 'random' object id and had no troubles with that. I suppose it 
>>> has limits to uniqueness in theory but it was quick to generate.
>>> 
>>> I was also about to start looking for something more short, like bit.ly 
>>> urls ? More like a mod-counter with a nice set of case-sensitive characters.
>>> 
>>> I was just about to ask if someone know's of a good slice of code or method 
>>> to do just that so I could adopt something more modern?
>>> 
>>> I figured for certain WO URLs it might be clean and won't expose id 
>>> ordering in a URL so I'd write an apache rule or two and use an object-id 
>>> like the die above? Not smart?
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Travis Britt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Unless you're generating a true guid that's impractical to do in a general 
>>>> way at the app level.
>>>> 
>>>> tb
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Kevin Hinkson wrote:
>>>>> This should be a common issue then. So I'm surprised there isn't some 
>>>>> kind of slug generator that handles ensuring uniqueness in Wonder. (or is 
>>>>> there?)
>>>> 
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