+1

And, it would certainly give devs more cred when we have to stand before 
someone about our technology choices.

Tim Worman
UCLA GSE&IS

On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> +1
> 
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> That is an interesting idea. I can see that it would make Wonder/WO seem 
>> much more credible.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-09-19, at 6:24 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> 
>>> I was trying to find a statement on the association objectives. 
>>> 
>>> Here is a crazy idea - maybe instead of starting a new non-profit, the 
>>> community should consider taking the open source parts of the WO code and 
>>> join the Apache Software Foundation. The benefits are the following:
>>> 
>>> * WOCommunity will become a top level project (TLP) under one of the most 
>>> recognized open source brands, exposing it to many more eyes compared to 
>>> now.
>>> * Apache has advanced and time-proven governing process that already works. 
>>> No legal expense or effort is required.
>>> * Apache is the best place out there for community building, code legal 
>>> clearance and preservation of software projects under the ASL 2.0. 
>>> * Somebody will watch your infrastructure for you.
>>> * You can organize your own conference and unconference events together 
>>> with the Apache Conference Committee, or present yourself during bigger 
>>> Apache events like ApacheCon.
>>> * You'll have a chance to hang out with some pretty serious geeks (not sure 
>>> if that's a benefit ;)).
>>> 
>>> But of course if you go this way, you'll have to become Apache and work on 
>>> achieving consensus with a much larger group of people on issues that go 
>>> beyond the code. And of course you may have different objectives than the 
>>> ones that I cited (community building, code legal clearance and 
>>> preservation). 
>>> 
>>> But give it a thought. Considering that WO core is not open source, this 
>>> will be creating an interesting precedent, so I called it crazy above, but 
>>> I think it is certainly doable.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> As you may know, we want to register the association as a non-profit 
>>>> organization in Canada. Since this is the first time I'm doing this, I 
>>>> would like input from you for the by-laws. You can find a draft in the 
>>>> wiki:
>>>> 
>>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Organization+Incorporation
>>>> 
>>>> If you have comments to make about them, please add them in the wiki, or 
>>>> post to the [email protected] mailing list (send an email to 
>>>> [email protected] to subscribe).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your help!
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