This is in response to an other thread (WOLips on Windows). I think it deserves 
its own one. List mom, please let me know if this is inappropriate.

On 19.12.2011, at 17:27, Kevin Spake wrote:

> If I may ask, what sort of WO training do you provide?  You can contact me 
> off list if you prefer.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Hi Kevin,

On list is ok for me (hope the listers do not mind)

I work as part time teacher at a private school here in Switzerland. We provide 
formal education as "Application Developer" for folks that have already had 
formal training for a profession but due to various reasons (often medical) 
must be re-trained to a new profession. The whole thing is 1 year full time 
school then 1 year full time work. They finish with an official Swiss Federal 
Diploma. During the first year the students have to take ~33 modules, most of 
them 40 lessons, some 80 lessons. Each such module covers one topic (DB design, 
structured programming, OO programming,  HTML/CSS, and many many others) and 
each ends with an exam. I have been doing this for the last 10 years on and off 
and I also have written several course books. These have been officially 
published and are available in book stores. Recently I have co-authored a book 
about OO Development covering the whole lifecycle from Analysis to Deployment. 
In there I have covered the development part with WebObjects. 
One of the modules im currently teaching is "Implementing an OO multi-user DB 
app". The general topics of each such module is given by federal regulations 
but it is up to the school/teacher how these are presented. I am teaching this 
module using WebObjects. The first part (40 lessons) will follow loosely the 
old Programming WebObjects 1 (Apple Stuff from 2001, adapted to the new tools 
etc), whereas the second part (again 40 lessons) will then focus on individual 
small projects and the methodology and concepts of OOA/OOD.

Why do I do this (using that "dead" thing called WebObjects) in teaching? 
Pretty simple: it is there, it works perfectly, it is a great thing to work 
with,  it is also a counter weight to J2EE, and I want to promote WO. Bring WO 
to schools and when the students later on get their jobs they might eventually 
mention what they have learned - spread the word!

Many many moons ago (December 2001) I attended an official Apple Train the 
Trainer for PWO1 and have been teaching that course several times in the past. 
Long since no WO teaching but have been working with WO on many projects during 
the last 10 years. I am currently quite involved with a large customer where I 
maintain several (rather old) WO-Apps and am currently massively extending an 
existing D2W app. Big fun and a lot to discover every day.

---markus---


> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote:
>> 
>> Need this for teaching WO (yeah!). Many folks come with their Macs but not 
>> everyone does. Some students have only Win notebooks. So I must be able to 
>> have development on Windows as well.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help
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