On 2012-03-13, at 1:43 PM, Rich wrote: > Hi Kieran, > > That sounds good and would be great if it happened - also be a lot easier on > the pocket ;o) - Obviously not so good for Chuck if he going to lose his > beers tho
I'd probably come. Someone has to help David A get in trouble and I am just the man for the job! > > It's great to know there's a community round this side of the globe as well, > I'm very new to WO but already really like it ease and flexibility, and a > thriving active community (obviously with a sense of humor) goes a long way > in my books. > > look forward to meeting some / all of you sometime > Rich > > On 14/03/2012, at 12:42 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > >> We have quite a few WebObjects community folk 'down under' - Quinton Dolan, >> Matthew Ness, Paul Hoadley, Lachlan Deck, Andrew Lindsay ... to name a few - >> we even have one very outspoken guy from this side of the globe who moved to >> Borneo last year - David Avendasora - there is even a possibility that >> WOWODC 2013 might even be 'down under' if David A. follows though on his >> promises ;-) >> >> Cheers, Kieran >> >> PS. We have many Davids in the community, so at least the first letter of >> the last name is needed to properly qualify, otherwise you get a >> EOUtilities.MoreThanOneException. >> >> PPS. There is a high probability that David A. could drink that beer on >> behalf of Chuck if he does indeed organize a WOWODC-Down-Under - and it >> would probably not be his first time drinking Chuck's beer either :-P >> >> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Rich wrote: >> >>> >>> I'd really love to come to Montreal for WOWODC 12, but it's a long way from >>> New Zealand where I live and it's been a pretty tough year for us (we got >>> caught up in the big earthquake in Christchurch which has set us back >>> financially), so unfortunately it's not likely this year, but maybe joining >>> the WOCommunity is an idea as I'll defiantly be looking at using WO for >>> other stuff in the future. >>> >>> Not sure how to get you that beer (or two) from here, but if you have any >>> suggestions (or fancy a trip to NZ) let me know - Otherwise maybe WOWODC >>> 2013 >>> >>> Take care, and I really appreciate your help >>> Rich >>> >>> On 13/03/2012, at 7:23 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-03-12, at 11:05 PM, Rich wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you so much Chuck, it's now working ..... pheew >>>> >>>> Excellent! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Your insight and direction we're spot on. >>>>> >>>>> The problem was that early on when I setup the project I for some reason >>>>> copied the ERExtension framework into the projects App folder to make >>>>> sure it used that particular version, >>>> >>>> Ah.... that explains it. >>>> >>>> >>>>> however as you suggested It wasn't building with the project (As I'd >>>>> presumed it would) - I'm not very familiar with Eclipse and find it quite >>>>> awkward to work with and work out what's going on - Kinda wish I could >>>>> develop WebObjects from XCode ;o) >>>> >>>> Been there, done that, did not like it. :-) Though I will admit that >>>> there are a LOT of variations to how you can set things up in Eclipse and >>>> that can make deployment a confusing time. >>>> >>>> >>>>> It seems so simple now, but I've been pulling my hair out - I'm so >>>>> relived and if there is any way I could buy you a beer (or two or three I >>>>> will (Let me know). >>>> >>>> I will suggest that you come to WOWODC this year, >>>> http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/ >>>> You can buy my a beer if you want to (I will drink it!) but even better >>>> you can learn a ton and meet some really talented developers. A lot of us >>>> also do iOS so you can also learn how others use that with WO and make >>>> some great contacts and friends. And Montreal is an awesome city! >>>> >>>> >>>>> I also just realized your the author of the Practical Webobjects book >>>>> which will now be my next purchase >>>> >>>> Some things are a bit out of date (tools), but I hope you will find it >>>> useful. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 6:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 10:12 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, so my UNIX classpath is as follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # JVM == java >>>>>>>> # JVMOptions == >>>>>>>> # JDB == jdb >>>>>>>> # JDBOptions == >>>>>>>> # ApplicationClass == jaboo.proto.websvc.Application >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/ >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/_jabooprotowebsvc.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-codec-1.3.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/mysql-connector-java-5.1.13-bin.jar >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/Resources/Java/javaeoaccess.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOAccess.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOControl.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaFoundation.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/Resources/Java/javajdbcadaptor.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaJDBCAdaptor.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Java/javawebobjects.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaWebObjects.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/WebServerResources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, yes it is ERExtensions.framework (with and 's') >>>>>>> BUT, there is no ERExtensions.jar file under the Resources/Java/ - No >>>>>>> JAR file in under here at all (Just done a search) >>>>>>> Just two further directories com & er with more files and >>>>>>> sub-directories under them. >>>>>> >>>>>> I _think_ that might mean that you don't have the Wonder frameworks >>>>>> installed (e.g. the built .framework versions, not the source projects). >>>>>> See the bottom of >>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code >>>>>> and the installation instructions here: >>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Building+and+Installing+a+Framework+with+Ant >>>>>> >>>>>> Do that on your dev machine and rebuild the deployment bundle. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Resources folder has lots of files with .wo extensions though >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:59 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:50 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mmm, OK I've rebuilt and my Unix classPath is showing all APPROOT/xxx >>>>>>>>> for the frameworks, however it DOESN"T have an entry for the >>>>>>>>> ERXExtension framework in there - Should it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd hope so, that is where the ERXContext* classes live! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've defiantly got an ERXExtension.framework folder in my >>>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks folder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> EXExtensions with an S on the end, right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is under that? Is there a Resources/Java/ERXExtensions.jar file? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just finishing fixing up the permissions and about to try and run it >>>>>>>>> up again to see what happens >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is hoping... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:24 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll give that a try now, I didn't have all the check ticked. >>>>>>>>>>> Also my Unix ClassPath (from you previous message) was showing a >>>>>>>>>>> mix of locations for the frameworks, so hopefully this will sort >>>>>>>>>>> that out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The ERExtensions one is the most critical right now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I meant all of the ones that your app is using, including the >>>>>>>>>>>> WebObjects frameworks that it is using. The goal is one self >>>>>>>>>>>> contained directory. There are not transitive dependancies >>>>>>>>>>>> between frameworks so if a framework is NOT included in your >>>>>>>>>>>> application project, then you don't need it. This should take >>>>>>>>>>>> care of it automatically: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-9.pdf> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:15 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say "Embed the Framework (All of them)" you mean only >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ones relevant to my App right? - or do you mean ALL of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder frameworks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 4:48 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-03-12 à 23:29, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 8:09 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first post to this list, so apologies if my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol is not correct, or I miss something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not much of a worry about that around here, we don't bite. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not your average place on the Internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been pulling my hair out for nearly a week now as I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my WO application running on my Linux server. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deployment is almost always a source of frustration and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anguish. You are not alone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a Noobie to WebObjects (1st project), and developed a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back end web-service for an iPhone / iPad application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prototype project I was contracted to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project is at the point of completion, and I've been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to make the WO application (Which runs just fine in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse), work on the deployment server so I can hand it over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (The Linux machine is running in VMWare). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have followed (several times), the 'Setup' and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Deployment' instructions on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Deploying+on+Linux and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that I have everything deployed OK (Application and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will gently suggest that this is your first and root problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Embedding the frameworks (all of them!) in the Application can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid so very many headaches. And who likes a painful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployment? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I start up the WO application instance from the Java >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor it seems to launch OK - The application log seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no issues and states the URL and "Waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requests...", it's just when I make a request (GET) just using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a browser, I don't get any response data - No error at all in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the browser, just an empty / blank page - I know I should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting some data back as there's data to serve for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be getting something back, even if just a short >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error message. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The WO application is a fairly simple and has been based upon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ERRestRouteExample included with the ProjectWonder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources, but as I said I know the application runs just fine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if launched form Eclipse (with the Eclipse http engine). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a suspicion it's something in my Apache setup, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't for the life of me think / see what it is - I'm not even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use I need Apache as I don't need to serve any HTTP pages, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just JSON response data (Please correct me if I'm wrong) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not your Apache config. For a small site you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly need Apache. But when you get larger and want to run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of your application to scale up, then you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want Apache (or something that helps to distribute the load, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is probably the easy, cheap option here). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know requests are getting through to the Linux server >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (checked with tcpdump), and I can see the request in the WO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application log with the following error, which I can't see to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find anywhere on the net. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2012-3-13 2:40:43 GMT+00:00] <WorkerThread14> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.InstantiationError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that means (and yeah, it is freaking obscure) that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Wonder that is on your dev machine is much older >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what is on the server. Check the size/date of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/erextensions.jar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also check your app for code like: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setContextClassName("ERXWOContext54"); >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.createContextForRequest(WOApplication.java:2039) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.createContextForRequest(ERXApplication.java:2083) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1735) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:245) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:158) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:126) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1687) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(ERXApplication.java:2021) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(ERXApplication.java:1986) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mar 13 02:40:43 Jaboo[2002] WARN NSLog - <WOWorkerThread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> id=14 socket=null> Workerthread exiting due to error, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respawning with ID 10014... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "WorkerThread14" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [java.lang.InstantiationError] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54:java.lang.InstantiationError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've bypassed Apache and wotaskd and am just doing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectConnection (which I've enabled) to the application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate any help of guidance on how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot further.. as I'm about to lose what little hair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got left - my time is running out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmest regards and a big hug to anyone who can help (please..) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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