When I tried to create a new Wonder Rest application.  I did not get that 
option just a wonder application option
Plus H2 would not let me put a value under prototypes

any direction welcomed 
thank you 

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> Hi Markus,
> 
> Good for you! Thank you for even thinking about this.
> 
> You ask what you should say about WOnder? I'd recommend the following:
> 
> 1) Defining what the project is and some history
> 
> 2) Show how to integrate it in your app, the pre-requisites.
> 
> 3) Leave it at that.
> 
> You kind of have to do this. When you are using the modern tools new users 
> can make either a "pure Apple" app or a "WOnder App" and they'll be 
> curious. You should let them know that WOnder opens the doors to Web 2.0 
> and much more (fixing bugs and issues is also a big part that you get for 
> free). Suggest they use it always, even if they don't consciously use 
> pieces from it. As they tackle tough problems remind them "Don't forget to 
> dig through the WOnder treasure trove and ask questions on the list. More 
> than likely, an answer to your problem already awaits!"
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> Cheers,
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> Most of my entities are of class EOGenericRecord.
> I do have a few custom entity classes that extend EOGenericRecord.
> 
> Sometimes, not always, the accessor methods for the "to one" relationships 
> return null, even though I know the relationship exists.  This usually only 
> occurs when the app has 70 or more sessions running.
> 
> The code for these custom entities was generated by the old EOModeler app.
> They simply return storedValueForKey.
> 
> The foreign key of the relationship is marked as "not null" in the model, but 
> the relationship is marked as "optional".  I know this is probably wrong, but 
> the old EOModeler app let you get away with this, and i'm sure stuff would 
> break if i changed it now.
> 
> To get the related entity from an EO that is of type EOGenericRecord, I 
> simply use valueForKey, and this never seems to return null.  Since this 
> always works, should my accessor methods in my custom entity classes return 
> valueForKey instead of storedValueForKey?  Would that fix my problem?
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> IMO wonder is the ONLY option to learn new.
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> +1
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>> Aren't pure Apple WO apps dead aside from legacy?  
>> 
>> IMO wonder is the ONLY option to learn new.
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> +1
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> There is no sense in writing a pure WO app these days, IMO.
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> On 2012-06-08, at 9:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
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>> +1
>> 
>>> Aren't pure Apple WO apps dead aside from legacy?  
>>> 
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> Hi Markus,
> 
> Great idea! Videos are fine, but they scatter the content all over the place 
> and you can't find things you need to reference quickly. I feel the same 
> about ERD2W, the content is now all there in the recent WOWODC videos, but 
> now a document is needed to tie it all together.
> 
> See below:
> 
> On 2012-06-08, at 5:48 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> after a lot of thinking back and forth I finally decided that the world 
>> needs another book about WebObjects. And for this I need your 
>> input/feedback. But first let me give some background on why I would do 
>> this.... 
>> 
>> I am a part time teacher and author of course books besides doing project 
>> work for customers. Just recently I have finished a course book about SSAD 
>> (yes, that old stuff that still has some importance) and am currently 
>> redoing a course book "Intro to OO Programming with Java".  The courses I 
>> teach are part of the formal training to become an application developer 
>> with an official diploma. This apprenticeship lasts two resp. four years and 
>> consists of 30+ modules plus an internship. I teach many of those modules 
>> and I can offer sometimes (as time permits) one of my student in internship 
>> in my company. 
>> Last year I had the opportunity to do a module "OO-Multiuser Application 
>> with Relational Database". The topics are given by Swiss Federal regulations 
>> but the teacher/school is free to use whatever tools and environments they 
>> want. I decided to use WebObjects and particularly EOF (object relational 
>> mapping is a big part of this module). Somewhere in the basement I found a 
>> set of the old Programming WebObjects 1 course book by Apple from around 
>> 2001. The students liked what they learned (albeit some had problems with 
>> course material in English) and I started to think that we ought to have 
>> something like that old PWO stuff but based on the modern tools. That same 
>> course will be run again beginning of next year and I hope I will be 
>> assigned that course again (there is quite a chance to that). But we would 
>> have to have a proper course book in German. I intend to formalise this 
>> course and write the course book introducing WO. The book will be in a style 
>> that encourages reading (readable almost like a novel). It can be used as a 
>> course book in formal training but it will be written in such a way that it 
>> is suitable (and preferable) for self-teaching. Of course the book has to be 
>> done in German but I think I can do an English version in parallel. There 
>> are some specific requirements for the topics covered in that particular 
>> module. These could be left out in the English version but I think the two 
>> versions will share more than 80 percent of the content.
>> 
>> Planned time frame is Q4/2012. The book will probably be available as an 
>> e-book. Maybe a print version is doable. The German version will be in print 
>> (but that will be the school's thing do do).
>> 
>> I intend to follow loosely along the lines of the original Apple PWO 1 
>> course. Here I have some requests to you folks out there: It is clear that 
>> all the tool specific things must be redone. What else would you consider to 
>> be important? WOnder?
> 
> Definitely Wonder. I wouldn't want to start a new project without knowledge 
> of:
> 
> 1. Prototypes
> 2. Migrations
> 3. EOGenerate and the related templates
> 
> so many amazing and time-saving things in here now like:
> .create
> .fetchSpec
> .fetchAll
> .fetchRequired
> .addTo
> .removeFrom
> 
> 4. Importance of properties (setting database connection dictionary, for 
> example)
> 
> Greatly simplifying some of the old convoluted things for a beginner might be:
> 
> ERXKey
> ERXQ (qualifying)
> EOQualifier qualifier = ERXQ.and(ERXQ.equals("name", "Mike"), 
> ERXQ.isTrue("admin"));
> ERXS (sorting)
> Person.fetchSpec().qualify(Person.NAME.is("Mike")).sort(Person.NAME.asc()).fetchObjects();
> 
> David
> 
>> Probably, but how far should I go there? The book is clearly for the 
>> beginner, so I do not want to go into too much detail (hey there was a PWO 2 
>> course once, there could be a followup book eventually...). E.g. as great as 
>> (ER)D2W is this should not be part of that book, neither should be REST, 
>> Ajax etc. I really want to stick to the original topics and adapt those to 
>> the modern world. I will include a chapter about setting up the development 
>> environment for both Mac OS X and Windows (I know the license states that 
>> one must not develop on non-Apple HW but the license does not state that one 
>> must learn on Apple HW only!) and a bit about deployment. 
>> 
>> Please let your suggestions and ideas come up. Either post here as replies 
>> or mail them directly to me.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help, see you (at least some of you) in Montréal
>> 
>> ---markus---
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> From: Pascal Robert <[email protected]>
> To: David Holt <[email protected]>
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> We just need people to finish this:
> 
> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Learning+WebObjects+-+the+curriculum
> 
>> Hi Markus,
>> 
>> Great idea! Videos are fine, but they scatter the content all over the place 
>> and you can't find things you need to reference quickly. I feel the same 
>> about ERD2W, the content is now all there in the recent WOWODC videos, but 
>> now a document is needed to tie it all together.
>> 
>> See below:
>> 
>> On 2012-06-08, at 5:48 AM, Markus Ruggiero wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> after a lot of thinking back and forth I finally decided that the world 
>>> needs another book about WebObjects. And for this I need your 
>>> input/feedback. But first let me give some background on why I would do 
>>> this.... 
>>> 
>>> I am a part time teacher and author of course books besides doing project 
>>> work for customers. Just recently I have finished a course book about SSAD 
>>> (yes, that old stuff that still has some importance) and am currently 
>>> redoing a course book "Intro to OO Programming with Java".  The courses I 
>>> teach are part of the formal training to become an application developer 
>>> with an official diploma. This apprenticeship lasts two resp. four years 
>>> and consists of 30+ modules plus an internship. I teach many of those 
>>> modules and I can offer sometimes (as time permits) one of my student in 
>>> internship in my company. 
>>> Last year I had the opportunity to do a module "OO-Multiuser Application 
>>> with Relational Database". The topics are given by Swiss Federal 
>>> regulations but the teacher/school is free to use whatever tools and 
>>> environments they want. I decided to use WebObjects and particularly EOF 
>>> (object relational mapping is a big part of this module). Somewhere in the 
>>> basement I found a set of the old Programming WebObjects 1 course book by 
>>> Apple from around 2001. The students liked what they learned (albeit some 
>>> had problems with course material in English) and I started to think that 
>>> we ought to have something like that old PWO stuff but based on the modern 
>>> tools. That same course will be run again beginning of next year and I hope 
>>> I will be assigned that course again (there is quite a chance to that). But 
>>> we would have to have a proper course book in German. I intend to formalise 
>>> this course and write the course book introducing WO. The book will be in a 
>>> style that encourages reading (readable almost like a novel). It can be 
>>> used as a course book in formal training but it will be written in such a 
>>> way that it is suitable (and preferable) for self-teaching. Of course the 
>>> book has to be done in German but I think I can do an English version in 
>>> parallel. There are some specific requirements for the topics covered in 
>>> that particular module. These could be left out in the English version but 
>>> I think the two versions will share more than 80 percent of the content.
>>> 
>>> Planned time frame is Q4/2012. The book will probably be available as an 
>>> e-book. Maybe a print version is doable. The German version will be in 
>>> print (but that will be the school's thing do do).
>>> 
>>> I intend to follow loosely along the lines of the original Apple PWO 1 
>>> course. Here I have some requests to you folks out there: It is clear that 
>>> all the tool specific things must be redone. What else would you consider 
>>> to be important? WOnder?
>> 
>> Definitely Wonder. I wouldn't want to start a new project without knowledge 
>> of:
>> 
>> 1. Prototypes
>> 2. Migrations
>> 3. EOGenerate and the related templates
>> 
>> so many amazing and time-saving things in here now like:
>> .create
>> .fetchSpec
>> .fetchAll
>> .fetchRequired
>> .addTo
>> .removeFrom
>> 
>> 4. Importance of properties (setting database connection dictionary, for 
>> example)
>> 
>> Greatly simplifying some of the old convoluted things for a beginner might 
>> be:
>> 
>> ERXKey
>> ERXQ (qualifying)
>> EOQualifier qualifier = ERXQ.and(ERXQ.equals("name", "Mike"), 
>> ERXQ.isTrue("admin"));
>> ERXS (sorting)
>> Person.fetchSpec().qualify(Person.NAME.is("Mike")).sort(Person.NAME.asc()).fetchObjects();
>> 
>> David
>> 
>>> Probably, but how far should I go there? The book is clearly for the 
>>> beginner, so I do not want to go into too much detail (hey there was a PWO 
>>> 2 course once, there could be a followup book eventually...). E.g. as great 
>>> as (ER)D2W is this should not be part of that book, neither should be REST, 
>>> Ajax etc. I really want to stick to the original topics and adapt those to 
>>> the modern world. I will include a chapter about setting up the development 
>>> environment for both Mac OS X and Windows (I know the license states that 
>>> one must not develop on non-Apple HW but the license does not state that 
>>> one must learn on Apple HW only!) and a bit about deployment. 
>>> 
>>> Please let your suggestions and ideas come up. Either post here as replies 
>>> or mail them directly to me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help, see you (at least some of you) in Montréal
>>> 
>>> ---markus---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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