Hi Chuck,
The count is actually of the WebPage.childWebPages() array not on stockItems at 
all which is why I was puzzled that a StockItem.turnIntoFault() was being 
triggered.
I confirmed that they are all in the same EC by logging the hashCode() of the 
EC (I assume that is valid)
Thanks for your reply
John

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:48, Chuck Hill wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Are StockItems "carefully pre-loaded" into the same EC as WebPages?  If not, 
> you are likely running into the EC's fetch timestamp lag.  It looks like you 
> are doing a count of StockItem at at 
> mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1410) and this is causing 
> the to-many to be faulted.
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012-09-05, at 9:21 AM, John Pollard wrote:
> 
>> Hi WO list,
>> 
>> The firing of a fault on EOs of one type is causing EOs of another type be 
>> turned into faults... is that expected?
>> 
>> I have a WebPage eo with a to-many relationship called childWebPages 
>> (returns an array of WebPage objects)
>> 
>> When I access this array recursively in getDescendantWebPages()...see stack 
>> trace below, a totally different class of object is turned into a fault 
>> StockItem, see top line of stack trace.
>> 
>> I don't want EOF to turn my carefully pre-loaded StockItems back into faults!
>> 
>> The two EOs are related via a join table.
>> 
>> This is causing performance headaches.
>> 
>>      at mp.eo.StockItem.turnIntoFault(StockItem.java:1714)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOFaultHandler.makeObjectIntoFault(EOFaultHandler.java:161)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._turnToFaultGidEditingContextIsComplete(EODatabaseContext.java:3363)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.faultForGlobalID(EODatabaseContext.java:3397)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.faultForGlobalID(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:537)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.faultForGlobalID(EOEditingContext.java:3608)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectFaultWithSnapshotRelationshipEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:2361)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._fireDeferredFaultWithSourceObject(EODatabaseContext.java:2401)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOAccessDeferredFaultHandler.createFaultForDeferredFault(EOAccessDeferredFaultHandler.java:49)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOCustomObject.willReadRelationship(EOCustomObject.java:1279)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol._EOMutableKnownKeyDictionary$Initializer$_LazyGenericRecordBinding.valueInObject(_EOMutableKnownKeyDictionary.java:614)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOCustomObject.storedValueForKey(EOCustomObject.java:1634)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.databaseOperationForObject(EODatabaseContext.java:4810)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.valuesForKeys(EODatabaseContext.java:6531)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.valuesForKeys(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:321)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOQualifierSQLGeneration$_KeyValueQualifierSupport.schemaBasedQualifierWithRootEntity(EOQualifierSQLGeneration.java:439)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOQualifierSQLGeneration$Support._schemaBasedQualifierWithRootEntity(EOQualifierSQLGeneration.java:179)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:227)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:483)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4053)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsForSourceGlobalID(EODatabaseContext.java:4084)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsForSourceGlobalID(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:629)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsForSourceGlobalID(EOEditingContext.java:3907)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._fireArrayFault(EODatabaseContext.java:4245)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOAccessArrayFaultHandler.completeInitializationOfObject(EOAccessArrayFaultHandler.java:77)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol._EOCheapCopyMutableArray.willRead(_EOCheapCopyMutableArray.java:45)
>>      at 
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol._EOCheapCopyMutableArray.count(_EOCheapCopyMutableArray.java:103)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1410)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1393)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1414)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1393)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1414)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1393)
>>      at mp.eo.WebPage.getDescendantWebPages(WebPage.java:1414)
>>      at mp.eo.WebSite.getAllWebPages(WebSite.java:842)
>>      at mpMall.DirectAction.getWebPageById(DirectAction.java:1982)
>>      at mpMall.DirectAction.viewPageAction(DirectAction.java:537)
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> John
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