Apologies,
Chuck had previously responded,

Thanks

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:08 AM, David Avendasora <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Saul,

I'm surprised that nobody has recommended that you speak to Chuck Hill (or
if they did, I didn't see it).

Waaaay back in 2005, he did an interview with Java Posse (
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/java-posse-005-interview-chuck/id270165303?i=87505171&mt=2).
It's quite out of date in terms of what is "latest", but a lot of the core
points he makes are still valid, and he is obviously very knowledgeable,
and a good speaker.

Dave


On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Saul Mora <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello All,

I have arraigned to chat with Jesse Tayler. He seems to have a good
background going back to the days of NEXT. Having everyone on a once makes
it tough to have a smooth, natural conversation. However, I know i asked
you all for your participation, and your response has been terrific. I do
want to get as many included as possible. If there is one other person you
all feel best represents the community, i'd like to include that person as
well.

Thanks,
I'm looking forward to this episode,
Saul


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On Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR,
474300D wrote:

 Re: Objective Cloud Interview Greetings Gang,
I could do it on the basis of a recent Ph.D. Graduate.  If were in that
case representing TTU as a student/alumni, then I could see that as
reasonable.  Also, it might work well from point of view of crediting
Pascal, Chuck, The Daves, Ramsey, Kieran, Paul, and any number of others.

I do think that there were some fair points made in the Objective Cloud
presentation.  Like it or not Java is one of the top 5 programming
languages in the world.  At the time it was selected to bear WebObjects, it
was the number one programming language in the world.  Unfortunately, that
popularity was due to our competition.  The big deal for WebObjects has
never been about popularity as much as it has been profitability.    It may
not be the API on Java that is winning the hearts and minds of Linux web
servers or Android devices, but it serves both Apple and non-Apple worlds
alike.  This service has been both profitable and mature with clear
evidence with no need for fanfare.  But maybe, we should notice that for
our own success.

As the podcast noted, Objective Cloud serves a useful niche that most of
the cloud world misses.  I look forward to seeing what they are capable of
doing with their product.  Also, I would be happy to contribute to help the
cause if I can.

V/R,

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On 1/24/13 12:47 PM, "Johnny Miller"
<[email protected]<x-msg://67/[email protected]>>
wrote:

I don't think he would have to say anything more than what is already in
his podcast about WebObjects and a Lean Start Up.

On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Kieran Kelleher
<[email protected]<x-msg://67/[email protected]>>
wrote:

I would think picking someone who is not under mothership NDA would be
better since they can mention the mothership company without worrying if
they are violating an NDA. Paul Yu is a good choice if not under NDA.

My 2 cents...

KK

On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Johnny Miller
<[email protected]<x-msg://67/[email protected]>>
wrote:

Those are both great picks and I also recommend Paul Yu.  Having just
listened to the podcast I think they really need to start with a high level
overview of what WebObjects was and what it is today.  I think that since
Paul worked at Apple he can give an interesting historical perspective to
it.

Aloha,
Mr. Johnny Miller
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Kahalawai Media Company
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On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Baiss Eric Magnusson
<[email protected]<x-msg://67/[email protected]>>
wrote:

Go for it Pascal, or proxy, or Chuck, ...

Best wishes,

Baiss Eric Magnusson, CTO
CascadeWebDesign.com <http://cascadewebdesign.com/> <
http://cascadewebdesign.com/>  (mostly retired)

On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Saul Mora
<[email protected]<x-msg://67/[email protected]>>
wrote:

Hi All,

I produce the NSBrief podcast (http://nsbrief.com <http://nsbrief.com/> ),
and posted the episode on Objective Cloud recently. WebObjects has
certainly made the rounds on many Cocoa developer podcasts recently as we
(cocoa developers in general) have been made known that WebObjects is, in
fact, not dead. It is, and never was, my intention to dismiss a technology
I know little about. I hope the interview did not come across that way. I
tried to ask questions based on my current understanding of WebObjects (as
I've learned bits here and there).

That said, I think it'd be great if someone from the community could come
on the show (hopefully soon) and explain WebObjects as it is today. I, for
one, would love to hear how it works, and if it's a better solution for
some people. Java, on the other hand, is always going to be the butt of
jokes. Sorry, I can't apologize for that part :)

Please get in touch with me to schedule a time to chat for the podcast! I
truly want to give your community the floor to help spread the word of
WebObjects to us Cocoa, Mac and iOS developers who think its either dead,
or not up to part with something like Ruby on Rails, or ASP.Net <
http://asp.net/> , or any other server technology out there. You can reach
me for the podcast at [email protected] <x-msg://67/[email protected]>

Thanks!

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