On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, David LeBer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave,
> 
>>> My #1 problem with D2W is that it's a bunch of non-compiler-checked strings.
> 
> I'm afraid that is the nature of D2W. If you cannot resign yourself to that, 
> you may want to choose to forgo it's benefits.

Yeah, it's my #1 problem, but I'm able to live with that problem to a point as 
D2W has some really cool capabilities. I just wish the tools did some key 
validation or at least had some code-completion. I can't tell you how many 
times I've dug into the source code of RuleModeler only to walk away feeling 
like I could never hope to figure out how to add even the basics of either of 
those functions to it.

> In D2W the "correct" way to do things is usually via rules.
> 
> I could see creating an assignment object, but then you will still be left 
> with needing to define a 'base' set of property keys

Yep, I figured one rule that defines all the possible keys that any user could 
see/edit/exicute

> and a set of keys to remove for each role.

Well, this one could be defined in code and at least use the EOGenerated Key 
static Strings so if a modeled property changes you get a compiler error. 
That's at least some protection.

> I'm not sure if that ends up benefiting much,  at least not enough to justify 
> not just doing it within the rules themselves.

Well, I guess it's a matter of degrees. I think there are times where what I'm 
talking about would certainly be just putting the same effort in a different 
place, but then I see lots of places where a little compiler back-watching 
would be priceless.

Or maybe some sort of additional eclipse builder that validates the keys used 
in rules… some sort of rule-checking pony.

That's the pony *I* want.

Dave

> D
> 
> On 2013-02-27, at 8:37 AM, David Avendasora <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm. I see how this can possibly work, but I'd like to codify the logic 
>> that filters all possible keys instead of having to create new sets of keys 
>> for each possible "role" a user could have many roles.
>> 
>> My #1 problem with D2W is that it's a bunch of non-compiler-checked strings. 
>> If an entity's properties change it will 1) not show up (best case) or B)  
>> throw a **runtime** exception (more likely). I HATE potential runtime 
>> exceptions even more than compound PKs.
>> 
>> I'm looking for some way of WO look-for and execute a delegate method that 
>> filters the array of displayProprteyKeys returned by the rule system.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> write rules using significant keys like
>>> 
>>> session.user.role = "Admin"
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> session.user.access > 4
>>> 
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> and you'll find D2W to be your greatest dream come true.
>>> 
>>> write low-level rules, just a handful  ---  and you'll adhere to the logic 
>>> of your business purpose.
>>> 
>>> nice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:10 AM, David Avendasora <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all you D2W devs out there!
>>>> 
>>>> Your worst nightmare is here, and I'm using D2W for a app about to go into 
>>>> production! 
>>>> 
>>>> After it's initial roll-out, one of the next features to be rolled out is 
>>>> to vary the attributes and relationships displayed to users based on 
>>>> permissions that they have.
>>>> 
>>>> What I'd like to do is take the keys that are defined by 
>>>> displayPropertyKeys in the rule file and then filter it based on which 
>>>> ones they have permissions to.
>>>> 
>>>> I have figured out a way to define and later recall which keys each users 
>>>> has permissions to view and/or edit, now I just need a mechanism to filter 
>>>> the rule-defined keys based on the currently-loggedin user's permissions.
>>>> 
>>>> I've looked at a couple ways, but I'm not sure what is the best strategy. 
>>>> I'm thinking creating a custom D2W Assignment subclass is the way, but I'm 
>>>> not sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
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