Hi David,

On May 9, 2013, at 1:45 PM, David LeBer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes definitely use the data attributes.

OK.

> Basically what I've been experimenting with is to have an init() method that 
> is called on page load. It scans the dom looking for elements of "AjaxJQ" 
> class, reads the component type from one data attribute and inits it with 
> params from another data attribute.

That's a cool idea.  You have a factory method that initializes the object.  
Have you thought about using a selector like: [data*] then you could avoid 
adding the AjaxJQ css class.  Maybe create a namespace like [data-wjq*] in case 
there are other libraries loaded on the page.

> If the init is called with no parameters it scans ("inits") the entire dom. 
> If it is called with an id it restricts it self to scanning that id. So when 
> you are finished updating a specific area, you call init("theAreaID") to init 
> any bits that have changed. This is built in to each component that modifies 
> the dom.

Got it.  I guess you could determine in the appendToResponse phase if it's an 
ajax request and if so include a message to register the object?  Otherwise if 
it's in the original response it gets initialized after the page loads?

> There are libraries that will look for changes in the dom and allow you to 
> respond accordingly, but they all have performance issues when the dom gets 
> big. Handling it manually and targeting the areas that you know have changed 
> is a little more fragile (i.e: you could forget to scan something after a 
> change) but less likely to degrade as your dom gets more complicated, and 
> easier to understand (i.e: less magic).

With MooTools they have behavior and delegators objects.  Delegator work like 
the 'on' function in jQuery.  I'll look closer into how the behaviors work.

> I've also begun playing with a standard set of delegate methods that are 
> called at specific points (before update, after update, etc) so you can 
> expand the behaviour as you need to.
> 
> This means that all of your js can live in the head, and all of the params 
> are supplied in the data attributes, and you have no js cluttering your html.

Sounds great.  Thanks for the advice.

> D
> 
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> David LeBer
> Codeferous Software
> 
> On 2013-05-09, at 6:19 PM, Johnny Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pascal,
>> 
>> I started working on a JQuery framework and I'm up to one component!
>> 
>> You can see it here: http://www.kahalawai.com/JQuery
>> 
>> I'm pretty busy but I think I could make one component a day.  I was 
>> wondering what people thought about a couple of questions I have:
>> 
>> 1. Should I use data attributes?  One thing I would like to do is not 
>> pollute the HTML with JavaScript code.  Now with my first example (the 
>> periodical updater) I'm not sure if that's possible i.e. When the page loads 
>> I can find the ajax update containers but what about an ajax update 
>> container that is returned from an ajax request?  But for a lot of the other 
>> components like ajax update link I could just register a trigger using the 
>> data attributes.
>> 
>> 2. Should I tie the framework to a look like JQueryUI or Bootstrap?  Some of 
>> the components like date pickers and modal containers need a default 
>> styling.  
>> 
>> Do you think I should keep on keeping on or has somebody already developed a 
>> framework they are about to release or is there a new better idea?
>> 
>> Aloha,
>> Mr. Johnny Miller
>> Web Development Manager
>> Kahalawai Media Company
>> Lahaina, HI 96761
>> tel: (808) 661-7962 | mobile: (808) 283-0791
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>> On Apr 6, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Larry Mills-Gahl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> There was some talk about directing some new development effort toward 
>>> jQuery in Wonder.
>>> I've been working on some bits in this framework and am coming to realize 
>>> that there are some organizational issues that could go a couple of 
>>> different directions and I was wondering if there are any forks out there 
>>> that are working on this that I might pull from and contribute to.
>>> 
>>> Among the questions that might benefit from some planning are about 
>>> multiple frameworks and dependencies. Specifically, the ERJQueryMobile 
>>> framework has jQuery javascript resources and so does the ERJQuery 
>>> framework (and potentially ERJQueryUI if we decide to separate jQuery from 
>>> jQuery-UI … which is probably a good idea. Since mobile and UI both depend 
>>> on jQuery, would it make sense to load those from ERJQuery and update the 
>>> version handling so that one could load whatever version of jQuery you 
>>> need. 
>>> Essentially, making some loader classes in ERJQuery able to load the right 
>>> version from local resources or a CDN depending on the need. 
>>> 
>>> Anyway… there are a few design decisions that will affect how the 
>>> framework(s) interact and I wanted to know who else out there had done work 
>>> on this that I might contribute to.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Larry Mills-Gahl
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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