If I make it, we will. I’ll allow you to decide if that’s a promise or a threat 
:).

- hugi


> Will we have fermented shark loin for breakfast?  :-)
> 
> On 2015-10-02, 3:55 PM,
> "webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com on behalf of
> Pascal Robert" <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com
> on behalf of prob...@macti.ca> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Le 2015-10-02 à 18:00, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Apple silently killed WebObjects and abandoned it's users roughly a
>>> decade ago (in a somewhat less-than-honest manner (Floop-de-diddity-doo
>>> You, Apple)).
>>> 
>>> But the community marches on. I¹m constantly impressed by how this
>>> community survives and keeps what's essentially a dead product the best
>>> IDE/web-framework combination available. But at the same time, it¹s kind
>>> of triste. We¹ll never get new users. No one will use a dead framework.
>>> I hesitate to recommend it myself.
>>> 
>>> We really need a future destination. I¹ve found a future for my data in
>>> Cayenne (I¹ve converted most of my WO/EOF projects to use Cayenne
>>> instead of EOF and it¹s awesome) but I haven¹t found any web frameworks
>>> that can even begin to compare to WO. And I¹ve looked hard.
>> 
>> You know, now that we have a direct flight between Iceland and Montreal,
>> your conversion to Cayenne would be a great presentation about WOWODC
>> 2016. :-)
>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2. okt. 2015, at 21:01, Alan Ward <aw...@apple.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not
>>>> inside. Just my personal opinion
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was reading this Wikipedia article.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would the list agree that WebObjects is now abandonware?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Definitions of "abandoned" vary, but in general it is like any item
>>>>> that is abandoned - it is ignored by the owner, and as such product
>>>>> support and possibly copyright enforcement are also "abandoned". It
>>>>> can refer to a product that is no longer available for legal purchase,
>>>>> over the age where the product creator feels an obligation to continue
>>>>> to support it, or where operating systems or hardwareplatforms have
>>>>> evolved to such a degree that the creator feels continued support
>>>>> cannot be financially justified."
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