Legally, no. Copyright still applies to abandonware. Whatever the way forward 
is, we can’t use WO code.

- hugi


> On 12. maí 2016, at 16:21, Jean Pierre Malrieu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apple will probably never open source WO.
> But does the fact that WO is officially « AbandonWare » have consequences for 
> the TB initiative?
> 
> JPM
> 
>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 19:13, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>> I think it’s good news—at least much better than the 
>> kind-of-certain-but-not-really uncertainty we’ve had for the past decade or 
>> so.
>> 
>> And I don’t think we should be holding our breath waiting for Apple to open 
>> source WO. As awesome as that would be, though :).
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3. maí 2016, at 16:47, Flavio Donadio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hugi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The 
>>> silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, 
>>> although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight 
>>> from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>> 
>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>> 
>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open 
>>> source software! ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Flavio
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> 
>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long 
>>>> time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least 
>>>> I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>> 
>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking 
>>>> about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was 
>>>> contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I 
>>>> spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea 
>>>> what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and 
>>>> had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will 
>>>> never be upgraded".
>>>> 
>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell 
>>>> you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police 
>>>> calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend 
>>>> that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>> 
>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just 
>>>> need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> - hugi
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