I’ve used it a bit. I was doing some async work and between that and Kotlin it took some effort to get used to. I liked the language, It is used a lot with Android.
From: Ricardo Parada <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 9:07 AM To: Chuck Hill <[email protected]> Cc: Yuri Kondratov <[email protected]>, WebObjects-Dev <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Going Server-side with Swift Open Source It looks very interesting. Has anybody played with it? I get the impression that it's brand new. It could help mitigate Swift envy. :-) Thanks for sharing Chuck. On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Not to mention the enormous selection of Java libraries. If you really don’t like Java, try Kotlin (https://kotlinlang.org) which does run on the JVM and is very similar to Swift. Chuck From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Ricardo Parada <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM To: Yuri Kondratov <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: WebObjects-Dev <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Going Server-side with Swift Open Source Hi - I’ve been following Swift’s evolution in the swift-evolution mailing list. As it exists today on the server is still lacking some key features needed to implement key-value-coding. There is a MIrror class that allows you to see the property names of a class (or even a struct) and get the value of each property. But it only works for properties. It does not work for methods in your objects. In addition, it is read-only, i.e. you can get the values but you cannot set properties. Hopefully by Swift 4 or 5 those features will arrive. But they are not there in Swift 3. On Apple platforms they are able to use CoreData because they are leveraging Objective-C run-time. However, the Objective-C run-time is not available on the server. Ricardo Parada On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Yuri Kondratov <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'm just hoping maybe apple will hint at a server side framework written in swift they will be releasing to the public :) On Jun 15, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Flavio Donadio <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yuri, I can’t say much right now, as the video is not available. And, even after I watch the video, I may still be unable to add anything to this conversation, as my knowledge lack a lot. :D From what I understand, one could write server-side applications in any language. For web apps, it’s necessary to integrate said language with an HTTP server — through CGI, Apache module or whatever. Apache is pretty much standard. I tend to think “mod_swift.so” would be the best solution now... Still, for something like WebObjects to be “ported” over to Swift, there’s a lot to be done. The Enterprise Objects Framework is what makes it so nice and easy to write WO apps and it is, by far, the larger part of the code base. And then there’s wotaskd, the database connectors… I am sure I am missing something, but I don’t see where a programming language would help us. Even if it is incredibly better than Java, which is a whole different conversation, with very different opinions, I am sure. ;) Still, hope springs eternal. Cheers, Flavio On 15/06/2016, at 03:04, Yuri Kondratov <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: For those that have not noticed this: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/415/ Going Server-side with Swift Open Source While the Swift language makes it easy to write software that is incredibly fast and safe by design, Swift being open source means you can use it on an even broader range of platforms, from mobile devices to the desktop and in the cloud. Come for an overview of available projects at Swift.org<http://swift.org/> and examples of the community in action. WWDC 2016 - Session 415 <Screen Shot 2016-06-15 at 1.58.00 AM.png> It was also mentioned in the currently available "What's New in Swift" at 9:55 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/402/ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br This email sent to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/rparada%40mac.com This email sent to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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