I am not sure how connection pooling, which happens in the Apace process, and 
Keep-Alive interact.  I thought the former was for the ServerSocket, but I 
could be very wrong.  I don’t know why you are seeing what you are seeing below.

Chuck

From: Michael Kondratov <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 6:08 AM
To: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>
Cc: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

I have noticed that the number of worker threads immediately goes us when we 
set connection pool to 1. If it is set to zero, worker threads stop at about 
70, but we see 50% system time CPU utilization. Once pooling is enables, CPU 
utilization drops, but workers grow to the max setting.

Michael

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On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Michael Kondratov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chuck,
We are handling around 100 requests per second spread over 5-10 application 
instances. We do have KeepAlive enabled in Apache. How would I manage that in 
WO? If the application thread count grows to 300 threads or so, does it mean 
that at one time we had a back log of ~250 requests or so?

Michael Kondratov
Aspire Auctions, Inc.
216-231-5515

On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Chuck Hill 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

There is no easy answer.

Ignoring Keep-Alive, you need to manage this setting, the Listen Queue Size, 
and number of instances to ensure that your app instances don’t build up a 
backlog of requests that will take longer to process than your users are 
willing to wait.  Otherwise, your instances are going to be calculating 
responses that are just going to encounter a broken pipe when attempting to 
respond to the client.  That is useless processing.  256 is way, way too high 
unless you are processing a lot of very short, quick responses.  Relating this 
to the number of Apache processes is pretty meaningless.  Apache is not doing 
much relative to your app.

Request with Keep-Alive complicate this significantly as they tie up a worker 
thread until the connection is closed.


Chuck

From: 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 on behalf of Michael Kondratov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 3:33 PM
To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: WOWorkerThreadCountMax

Hello,
     Does it make sense to set the value equal to or greater than the number of 
active apache processes? Our server is receiving more traffic than usual and 
each application is hitting the default limit of 256. I assume it is due to 
each apache process trying to maintain a connection to each instance. We 
typically see apache grow to 1000 processes.


Michael Kondratov
Aspire Auctions, Inc.
216-231-5515


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