I’m very interested in, what to me are, the dark Maven arts. It’s such a deviation from how it all works for me now with ant and Fluffy Bunny - from dev env all the way through CI and deployment artifacts. eg how do I go about having my Wonder framework dependencies as open projects in my workspace so the source code is as available as my application’s source? Can my private repository just be a path on my jenkins http server? (there’s probably an app/plugin for that).
I should go away and work through some Maven primers and come back with specific questions in their own thread, but +1 from me with gratitude for more insight from Hugi, Paul and the rest of the WO Maven brains trust. - Sharpy. > On 22 Feb 2019, at 8:54 am, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote: > > For a little addition to this discussion, just if you find it interesting: > Today I set up a new developer environment on a new machine by: > > 1) Installing Eclipse > 2) Installing WOLips (4_10, thanks guys!) > 3) Cloning a git repository containing a maven WebObjects project > 4) Running the WebObjects project > > Said project can also be built for deployment by just running "mvn package" > on it. No WebObjects installation. No property files. None of the mess or > wizardry that's usually involved in getting WO running on dev or build. > That's worth something. > > To be fair, the project's pom referenced the WOCommunity repository. Usually > you'll have to add that to your own maven settings (since WO and WOnder are > not in Maven central) but that's one, one-time step. > > It's just so… Lovely. > > - hugi > > > >> On 21 Feb 2019, at 22:38, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is >> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, not really. There's that guide for converting an existing >> Fluffy Bunny project… >> >> https://gist.github.com/hugith/e9a49e91fbcebe204e0feb4989f55631 >> <https://gist.github.com/hugith/e9a49e91fbcebe204e0feb4989f55631> >> >> …and after that everything should just work®. But of course there are always >> caveats. And we're really missing basic documentation on project structure >> and other stuff for people new to Maven. >> >> But if you give it a try, I (and others) are very happy to help along the >> way, both here on the list and on Slack. I don't know anyone that switched >> to Maven and regretted it. >> >> - hugi >> >> >> >>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 19:02, Fredrik Lindgren <fredrik_li...@drop.se >>> <mailto:fredrik_li...@drop.se>> wrote: >>> >>> So, is there a good description/guide somewhere for how to use Maven with >>> WebObjects and Wonder? >>> >>> Hälsningar >>> Fredrik Lindgren >>> >>> 21 feb. 2019 kl. 18:13 skrev Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is >>> <mailto:h...@karlmenn.is>>: >>> >>>> Ya'll need Maven. >>>> >>>> - hugi >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 17:09, Tim Worman <li...@thetimmy.com >>>>> <mailto:li...@thetimmy.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would think, at this point, that the number of devs swapping between >>>>> multiple versions of WO would be close to zero. Anyone supporting a >>>>> legacy codebase will probably know what to do. Perhaps there could simply >>>>> be a link to a separate article - “How to maintain multiple versions of >>>>> WO." >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 8:10 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem is that (If I remember correctly) when you invoke ant on the >>>>>> CLI, ant uses wolips.properties. it will ignore anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> so if you have a wolips.543.properties and Eclipse is set up to use it, >>>>>> then Eclipse is Okay, but the CLI will not use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I think it is better to NOT use the wolips.543.properties so that >>>>>> installing and or compiling from Eclipse will agree with using the CLI. >>>>>> >>>>>> One can do whatever pleases themselves, but I think erring on the side >>>>>> of consistency is more correct (betterer???)! And it is not really >>>>>> erring, it is making an informed decision. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you override ant’s properties? >>>>>> >>>>>> ant -Dproperties=wolips.543.properties >>>>>> >>>>>> So I agree with Markus, we should tone down the usage of .543. (multiple >>>>>> versions) or at the least call it not recommended and the above is why. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag >>>>>>> <mailto:m...@selbstdenker.ag>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Ted, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went through the install process on a clean machine, created new >>>>>>> screenshots and updated the Project Wonder Installation page with that. >>>>>>> But I kept the wolips.543.properties scheme that had been described >>>>>>> there, even though the comments at the bottom recommend not doing that >>>>>>> and ignore the versioning. I also have the impression that skipping the >>>>>>> version distinction would be better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can update that again, but I'd like a discussion about that detail >>>>>>> here before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 21.02.2019 um 05:06 schrieb Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I can edit some pages but not all :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can edit in here for instance: >>>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Building+a+WebObjects+Project> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but I cannot edit here: >>>>>>>> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation >>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Project+Wonder+Installation> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have always been very confused in the wiki. I know that Maik Musall >>>>>>>> can edit here because it says at the top of the page: >>>>>>>> last modified by Maik Musall >>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/~mmusall> on Dec 01, 2017 >>>>>>>> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=1835055&selectedPageVersions=60&selectedPageVersions=61> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be happy to help here if we can figure out how to get me edit >>>>>>>> privs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A wiki update would be good. I’ve updated README.md in the 4.10 repo >>>>>>>>> to reference the appropriate version of Eclipse and WOLips update >>>>>>>>> site URL. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Sharpy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:03 pm, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> should the wiki be updated to reflect this URL? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hate the idea of having to examine the mail archives to find this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just to let you know that I've merged Michael's pull request into >>>>>>>>>>> the eclipse_4_10 branch. Maik did set up a new Jenkins job to build >>>>>>>>>>> from changes on that branch. You can test it by pointing your >>>>>>>>>>> WOLips update site to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.wocommunity.org/job/WOLips410/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/temp/dist/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It looks good on my machine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HP >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henrique, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, PR here https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139 >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/pull/139> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 3:11 am, Henrique Prange <hpra...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hpra...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've pushed a new branch eclipse_4_10 to track changes and fixes >>>>>>>>>>>>> for Eclipse 2018-12 momentarily. Would you mind to create a pull >>>>>>>>>>>>> request? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HP >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Michael Sharp <getsh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:getsh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Samuel, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m happy to create a pull request but I’m not sure there’s an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate destination branch at wocommunity/wolips yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d like to see jenkins.wocommunity building this too. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jenkins building it here with both rebel and jprofiler support, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> although I’m unable to test those particular features. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Sharpy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps: my last message was sent from an email address that is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> registered for the list, this one should make it. It’s been a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 1:50 am, Samuel Pelletier <sam...@samkar.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I managed to build your branch with the readme content (There >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are too many build instruction out there...) and after fixing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wo.root in the wobuild.property file that was not up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date. I built without jprofiler and without jrebel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddKey works again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be a good thing to create the official repo with these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and start the automatic builds. What is the next step to put >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in place ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2019 à 18:29, Michael Sharp <mich...@getsharp.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mich...@getsharp.org>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m building a WOLips4.10 variation locally from my branch at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/getsharp/wolips/tree/eclipse_4_10> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The changes to their internal JDT APIs (such as StubUtility) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a pretty good incentive to leave them alone all together. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add Key and a few other broken features are fixed for me with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this build. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2019, at 7:37 am, Samuel Pelletier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sam...@samkar.com <mailto:sam...@samkar.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I experience Eclipse 2018-12 with WOLips and DCEVM and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest WOLips and it works quite well to date. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the openjdk11 with DCEVM and Hotswap integrated found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this location, it is important to use the latest (+8 at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time) version if you use Groovy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/TravaOpenJDK/trava-jdk-11-dcevm/releases> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This download contains the entire JVM directory, to install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cd /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo tar zxf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/yourDownloadLocation/java11-openjdk-dcevm-osx.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then go to Eclipse preferences to add the new JVM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This JVM is for dev only, it always starts with DCEVM and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotswap. DCEVM is a free hot code replacement like JRebel and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotSwap contains plugins to help the engine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apps compile and run faster (real or placebo effet) than my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only downside to date is the addKey in the WO editor that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It fail with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/eclipse/jdt/internal/corext/codemanipulation/StubUtility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the addKey problem in WOLips, the team moved an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal classe used by this function in the AddKeyInfo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class. Here is the import that need to change in this file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -import >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.corext.codemanipulation.StubUtility; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +import >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.core.manipulation.StubUtility; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem now is I do not have a working WOLips build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment to test this. I tried to follow the Wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction but I only get fail build du to missing something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone has a working WOLips development setup, please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update it with Eclipse 2018-12 and apply my patch to build a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new WOLips. This will require a new WOLips version for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse 4.10+ since this code will no longer works with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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