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> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev > <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up. > > And what is PHBs? > > Gibi > >> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >> >> My opinionated take is the following: >> >> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under >> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has >> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market >> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still cling >> to .war deployment. >> >> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to >> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot. >> >> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not >> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in >> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a >> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of >> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a >> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in >> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator. >> >> So you decide :) >> >> Andrus >> >> >>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting… >>> >>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss, >>> Tomcat, Websphere etc.. >>> >>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which >>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a >>> team... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/> >>>> >>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives >>>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble >>>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection, >>>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules). >>>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever. >>>> >>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and >>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically >>>> equipped with POSIX CLI. >>>> >>>> Andrus >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev >>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other >>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why? >>>>>> >>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system? >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org >>> >>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org> >>> >>> This email sent to and...@objectstyle.org <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org > > This email sent to and...@objectstyle.org
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