On 29 Jun 2022, at 10:42, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev 
<webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:

> It’s not a completely different issue is it?
> 
> If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT, 
> they will need to switch to Maven going forward.

Is that how you build Aaron, or just a hypothetical? (Part of the problem is 
that these days we don't even know who everyone is, let alone what they're 
doing!)

> While we wish everyone who makes changes to Wonder would make pull requests 
> to integrate them but that doesn’t always happen. Those teams essentially 
> have a fork of Wonder that they periodically merge public changes into and 
> build with ANT. 
> 
> That said, I can understand why many don’t want to support ANT anymore when 
> they don’t even use it. If Maven is the future then people will have to 
> change. 

At some point the issue just comes down to motivated manpower: there's just no 
one left to support the Ant build. It hasn't worked on Jenkins for months, but 
no one noticed and no one has the motivation to fix it. I think this is less of 
an active decision to drop Ant support, but rather a passive realisation that 
there's just no one that's going to do the work.

> Question… I thought Maven was old-hotness once Gradle stepped in? If we are 
> talking about moving on, why isn’t Gradle on the table? 

Again, it's just motivated manpower: who would build a Gradle plug-in?


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