At 4:42 PM -0800 3/4/99, guy lipof wrote:
> hello fellow wo developers...
>
> on another listserve, a program manager from idot.com emailed the group
> stating the following when i recommended someone look at macos x server and
> wo:
>
> "Run away from Webobjects... $25 - 50K per server for a runtime license for
> any serious application... very limited scalability.. crappy session
> support... High Latency... How do I know? My current site runs on it! We are
> working full steam to get off of web objects..
> rm"
>
> now i don't know what he is comparing wo to, but i seem to recall that there
> were some issues between idot and the wo consultants that did the job. does
> anyone have any comments on this?
Well, I'm not sure I go along with any of this:
1. The licensing structure seems to have changed for WO from per
user, per cpu to a transaction per minute license. Yay! This works
much better on the internet.
2. I haven't actually done this, but WO seems to scale pretty well.
You can move up a single server to more and more expensive hardware,
or you can redistribute WO Apps among many machines talking to one
database. If you use Oracle, you can scale Oracle seperately from
your WO. Why is scalability limited?
3. The session support seems to be one of the best features of web
objects, and if you don't like it, you can override how it works.
What's the problem?
4. Latency? Are his objects compiled? What database are you using?
Using SQL Server, get rid of that first! Have you tried throwing more
RAM at the server? $1000 worth of ram can be equivalent to $10,000
worth of processor when you're running a database server.
Sounds to me like:
a. the program manager doesn't understand WO, and neither do his
people. So they want to switch to something they do understand:
Active Server Pages (Talk about not being scalable and having high
latency...), or something of that ilk. Pretty common in technology
until a technology has built up enough of a reputation that
criticizing it reflects on the critic instead.
b. No one has really gone in and benchmarked the idot.com website
to see what their real bottlenecks are.
Pierce
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