At 9:43 AM -0800 3/13/99, Mark F. Murphy wrote:
> I've got a question for those in the know.
>
> When trying to figure scaling and sizing issues with WebObjects on Solaris,
> is there a rule of them to figure out how many sessions and/or CPUs might
> be needed based on some average?
>
> My client has an unlimted CPU license, so it seems to make sense to get a
> box dedicated to the app server which CPUs are just pumped in.
>
> However, are there any drawbacks?  Are there any diminishing returns?
>
> We're basically trying to figure out the type of box we go with for
> deployment for the app server.
>
> Also, has anyone tried to deploy WO and Oracle on the same box?  If so, was
> it disastrous?  Did it work?  If so for either case, why?
>
> Anyone with real world experience in these items?


  I've been trying to build a chart, but I haven't gotten a lot of 
hard numbers yet. Best numbers so far are from Greg Titus at 
Omnigroup:

> For a "normal" application it might look like:
>
>   < 250 TPM: MOSXS G3 450
>   250 - 1000  TPM Solaris Sparc 5E
>   1000-7500  TPM High-end Solaris
>    7500+ TPM Multiple High-end Solaris

  I actually suspect that you can get better numbers then 250TPM for 
the server that Apple is selling with MacOS server, since it has a 
RAID array and a pretty fast processor. Greg said that he was doing 
500 TPM on a pentium 2 400, but that application could cache all of 
its pages once they'd been generated once.

  You can get pricing from Sun: 5E's are 6-8, High Ends 20K-100K.

  What would really be interesting would be to see how Oracle or some 
other database scales as well, since if you're using EOF, you may be 
throttled by Oracle more then WO. Not only that, but at some point, 
you have to buy 2-3 of everything so that you can have rudunancy, 
24/7 operation, fail-over and all that good stuff.

  It would also be interesting to find out when its worth moving the 
database server to a seperate machine.

 Pierce
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