Resig & jQuery What I didn't like was a comment of Resig reffer to web.py as one programmer > using his own framework. >
Resig is the creator of jQuery. Browse the group's mailing list for a taste of what he's talking about. jQuery -- 3207 members; "high" activity; 44095 posts web.py -- 606 members; "low" activity; 3850 posts I posted a question regarding an unclear use of a basic function and not only was the question solved immediately by Resig, many other people had chimed in. I pointed out that the documentation was unclear. Resig fixed it on the spot. This kind of activity is what a large, supportive community can offer a framework (or an anti-framework). Ian Bicking & Uniformity So people want a one-size-fits-all framework to compete with RoR? Why? The ability for a designer to pick up RoR and output a "Web 2.0" app overnight is fabulous. Does Python need to conform to this ideology as well? If so Django is probably the best fit but why must we chose one and stick with it? Wasn't WSGI designed to provide a uniform base in which frameworks of all sorts could build interswappable components for? That said, isn't web.pyreally pushing the framework ecosystem in the right direction? I'd like to think so at least :). Maybe Aaron, Anand, or anyone else with more knowledge of WSGI can chime in. Documentation & webpy.org As for Guido's initial grade of "F" for documentation.. How far have we come since then? Are we at least passing by now? Sadly, I think not.. Where's `teh communicator`? Is it in progress through Google's Summer of Code? Where do we stand with the other ideas <http://webpy.org/ideas>? As for the core documentation, where does that stand? As for Resig's "one programmer using his own framework", how can we deny his statement short of proof? Can the following list be expanded? Can openlibrary.org be pushed to this list? In my opinion Micropledge's "fitting in" with the minimalist approach may be a potential turn off as people generally desire freedom rather than constraint. > Who uses web.py? > > reddit.com, one of the top 1000 sites according to Alexa, uses web.py to > serve its millions of daily page views. "It's the anti-framework framework. > web.py doesn't get in your way," explains founder Steve Huffman. > (Disclosure: web.py creator Aaron Swartz was also a founder of reddit.) > > colr.org, a color scheme picking site, is built in web.py. > > Yandex <http://yandex.ru/>, a Russian traffic provider whose homepage > alone receives 70 million daily page views, uses web.py for certain > projects. > > LShift <http://www.lshift.net/> has used web.py to build websites for > Expro <http://exproretail.com/> and publisher Dorling > Kindersley<http://travel.dk.com/>. > "web.py allows us to do what we do best," they report. "It does the webapp > thing brilliantly, and without requiring us to compromise on flexibility and > originality." > > micropledge <http://micropledge.com/>, a web app that collects funding for > software ideas, is built in web.py. "We've enjoyed fitting in with its > minimalist approach," says developer Ben Hoyt. > Aaron, might you help me retrieve my account password for the newly implemented wiki? Username: angelogladding. I don't remember registering @ webpy.org but I did have an account previously with infogami.com. Any help would be appreciated. What do we, the web.py community, have to do to boost our reputation in the overall Python web community? I believe something close to `the communicator` as well as more accessible documentation (easier to browse and edit) will be a good start. Furthermore, I believe we need to describe the benefits of this "anti-framework" while comparing and contrasting other current solutions. We should also push for work on the "infrastructure" improvements listed on the ideas page as well. Essentially they are modules, components, plugins, whatever you want to call them. These seem to be the backbone of other successful frameworks. Seeing as openlibrary.org is an open project built on web.py, is there any code that can be offered from it to the greater community? Anyone else agree, disagree, have any comments or ideas? I look forward to rallied support for taking web.py to the next level. On 8/23/07, Tzury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What I didn't like was a comment of Resig reffer to web.py as one > programmer using his own framework. That is a minimizing action for > "great framework for those who hates framework" > > > > > -- Angelo Gladding [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://angelogladding.com (626) 755 - 1417 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web.py" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/webpy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
