ah, ok. i got that set up no problem.
i also see this ticket: http://www.initd.org/tracker/psycopg/ticket/192
is fixed, so maybe i'll try the svn version.
thanks
-brent

On 11/4/07, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 3:40 am, "Brent Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/14/07, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 14, 8:15 pm, "Ben Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > This is definitely a problem in psycopg2 and I probably should log an
> > > > > issue against that package telling them that their package is unusable
> >
> > > > Aha! Thank you, thank you very much!
> >
> > > > We haven't tried daemon mode yet (will soon), but if C modules are only
> > > > loaded once per process instead of once per interpreter, then yeah, 
> > > > that's
> > > > definitely the problem. What a nightmare!
> >
> > > >     PyObject *decimal = PyImport_ImportModule("decimal");
> >
> > > > >     if (decimal) {
> > > > >         decimalType = PyObject_GetAttrString(decimal, "Decimal");
> > > > >     }
> >
> > > > Incidentally, we looked at that code snippet just the other day, and it
> > > > *looked* fine then ... but of course we hadn't realised the thing about 
> > > > C
> > > > modules only being loaded once per process.
> >
> > > > Does this mean there'd be no easy way to fix this problem using 
> > > > mod_python
> > > > (unless psycopg2 was fixed)?
> >
> > > Correct, if using just mod_python there wouldn't be a way around it
> > > except for fixing psycopg2. At least in mod_wsgi one can use daemon
> > > mode to delegate applications to separate processes thereby avoiding
> > > the issue.
> >
> > > I am actually quite surprised that this issue hasn't come up
> > > previously with mod_python as the code in psycopg2 has been there for
> > > many years.
> >
> > > FWIW, I have extended my documentation on application issues when
> > > using mod_wsgi to add a section on problems with multiple
> > > interpreters.
> >
> > >  http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ApplicationIssues
> >
> > > Described there are general problems with extension modules when using
> > > multiple sub interpreters, plus this specific issue.
> >
> > > Look forward to seeing how you go with daemon mode of mod_wsgi as a
> > > way of getting around this.
> >
> > > Graham
> >
> > so i've hit this problem as well though i think it might have been
> > with a datetime object, not a decimal.... i've switched to pgdb for
> > now, but prefer psycopg2. is it confirmed that psycopg2 works in
> > daemon mode? i am ignorant of how that works, would it be restricted
> > to processes=1 threads=1 in order to avoid similar problems?
> > thanks,
>
> The issue is not number of processes and/or threads, but which sub
> interpreter the application runs in and whether there are other
> applications in same process running in other sub interpreters.
>
> In short, delegate each application to a separate daemon process using
> mod_wsgi daemon mode. Then force the application to run in the main
> interpreter of their respective processes, by setting:
>
>   WSGIApplicationGroup %{GLOBAL}
>
> So, one application per process group and all running in the main
> Python interpreter and not a secondary sub interpreter.
>
> Graham
>
>
> >
>

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