Thanks for reviewing the IDNA text Pete.

> I really, truly wish we could avoid all reference to 5895 and UTS46.
> (And this comes from a co-author of the former.) Basically, those
> documents are about taking user (or other sorts of "unwashed" input) and
> doing something 'magic' before handing it to something that expects
> proper IDNs. Really, I'd like this kind of protocol document to say,
> "What goes is this field is something that is properly pre-processed by
> whatever handed it to us and if it's bogus, we're not going to do
> anything to 'help' it."

Note that that's what this spec attempts to do in the intro to section 7..

>     This processing model assumes that the UA implements IDNA2008
>     [RFC5890], or possibly IDNA2003 [RFC3490], as noted in Section 11
>     "Internationalized Domain Names for Applications (IDNA): Dependency
>     and Migration".  It also assumes that all domain names manipulated in
>     this specification's context are already IDNA-canonicalized as
>     outlined in Section 8 "Domain Name IDNA-Canonicalization" prior to
>     the processing specified in this section.
>
>     The above assumptions mean that this processing model also
>     specifically assumes that appropriate IDNA and Unicode validations
>     and character list testing have occured on the domain names, in
>     conjunction with their IDNA-canonicalization, prior to the processing
>     specified in this section.  See the IDNA-specific security
>     considerations in Section 13.2 "Internationalized Domain Names" for
>     rationale and further details.

> But I understand that this may be "happy
> thoughts". If you really can't avoid talking about user input processing
> in this document, I will hold my nose and say no more about it.

yeah, sigh: lacking a more generalized spec laying out all that subsumed detail, it seems prudent (from a completeness perspective, at least) to include it. (I brought up concocting such a generalized how-shud-app-protocols-do-IDNA(-during-"transition-from-IDNA2003-to-2008") spec in the precis WG meeting in Taipei ietf-82, but there was a fair bit of pushback on the notion there)

But, if the ADs and IESG were to decide we could get by without such language (i.e. section 10 IDNA: Dependency and Migration) in this spec we could excise it. (I'll leave it in for now)

thanks again,

=JeffH



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