On 08/02/14 15:00, Yoav Nir wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Trevor Perrin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Yoav Nir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Thank you Chris, Chris and Ryan.
>>>
>>> This is to announce the beginning of a WGLC for this draft. Because a lot 
>>> of the group members are busy preparing for London and getting those drafts 
>>> out by the deadline, we will extend the time allocated for this WGLC to 
>>> three weeks, ending on February 28th.
>>>
>>> Please take this almost-final opportunity to review the draft and if you 
>>> spot a problem, send comments to the list.
>> Hi Yoav,
>>
>> You've been trying to rush through a "Last Call" since June.  A new
>> draft appeared hours ago.  There were substantive open questions the
>> last time we discussed this, and there have been substantive changes
>> in the draft.
>>
>> It's going to take time for people to read the new draft, digest the
>> changes, and discuss.
>>
>> Could you please give us this time and stop trying to force this?
> Hi Trevor.
>
> I don't think taking from June till now is "rushing". As you have said, there 
> are substantive changes in the draft, and that is why we have allowed three 
> weeks rather than traditional two for this last call. We (Tobias, myself and 
> the authors) believe that the issue that have been raised have been addressed 
> in this version. If it turns out that there are new issues, on which we 
> haven't yet reached consensus, we will discuss them, and have as many more 
> revisions as necessary. 
>
> In low-traffic mailing lists such as this one, there are participants who 
> won't spend the time on reading and commenting until last call. In June we 
> had thought that all the issues were addressed, but new ones emerged only 
> when we started the WGLC. So we discussed more, and went through a few more 
> revisions, and here we are. As always in the IETF, nothing leaves the working 
> group without consensus being called. 
>
> I believe that three weeks is plenty for reading, digesting and discussing. 
>
> Regards,
>
> Yoav


Hi Trevor,

I just wanted to add, that the call for WGLC has not been by decided by
Yoav alone, but that as WG co-chairs we both discussed the appropriate
timelines and are in full agreement on this.

And as Paul pointed out by normal IETF standards a 3 week WGLC would
normally be considered long.

Best regards, Tobias


Ps.: btw. if you think the draft still has major flaws or has not
addressed adequately major flaws that have been pointed out earlier, I
encourage you to post this now during the WGLC.


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