Follows up thread "Remotely-hosted resources 001"
started 05 August 1999.


REMOTELY-HOSTED RESOURCES 002
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A remotely-hosted resource is a program which resides on a web
server that is different from the server which hosts your web
site.

An example is the Response-O-Matic form script -- a Perl program
which some members of this list use on their web pages. The web
page is at internettrash.com and the program is at
www.response-o-matic.com. Most webmasters prefer to use programs
on their own servers, but there are not many free web site
providers that allow it (mainly for security reasons).

So remotely-hosted resources are widely used, and are sometimes
of a very high standard. Without reliable web access, we have a
problem finding out what they are and where they are. But the
biggest problem is signing up for them and maintaining them,
because it so often involves user names, passwords and cookies.

However, many of those resource sites are available to us if we
know how to web-to-email servers -- programs which we can use to
register and update by email, even to accept a cookie by email.


WEB-TO-EMAIL SERVERS
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Members of this list who also subscribe to the ACCMAIL list are
already familiar with the idea of obtaining web pages and images
using email-only methods.

Those who don't know about the ACCMAIL list and documents should
find out as soon as possible -- you are missing out on something
valuable that can help you develop your email-only web site.

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Programs which fetch web pages and email them to you are called
web-to-email servers. It would be pointless to list them all
here, because the list would soon become out of date. By joining
the ACCMAIL list, you will have access to all the latest
information and help.

You can use web-to-email servers to fetch most web pages. As
would-be webmasters, the pages that are most interesting to us
are those which have forms for subscribing to webmaster services
or signing up for free resources. A web form is used to send
information back to the server, so we have to do more than just
fetch the page. Fortunately for us, there are several
web-to-email servers which can do it.

Access to some resources is controlled by cookies. This is most
common when you have already signed up and the server needs to
connect you to your records in a database. Even this obstacle
has now been overcome.

The correct forum for discussion of web-to-email servers, where
they are, and how to use them is ACCMAIL. Please join the
ACCMAIL list if you would like to add remotely hosted resources
to your email-only web site. Minor technical difficulties are
not unusual, and ACCMAIL is the best place to ask for help and
give advice.


ON-TOPIC DISCUSSION FOR THIS LIST
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The focus of this list should be on developing a web site
without the benefit of reliable access to the web. Getting a web
site is much easier than it was only two years ago. Anybody can
do it. It is not easy to develop real webmaster skills this way,
but it is *possible*, so let's concentrate on the possibilities.

On-topic discussion of remotely-hosted resources includes
* The resources themselves
* How to integrate them into an email-only web site

Sun Zoom Spark and Friends have recently been testing free
remote CGI resources, and will soon begin reporting on those
that seem suitable for email-only users.



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