Alan Burlison wrote:
> Roland Mainz wrote:
> > I know... but it renders the site useless for _me_ (as project lead)
> > since I cannot upload my pages. That's one of the reasons why I am more
> > and more unhappy with the choice of a Wiki as main webpage engine
> > (mozilla.org had a similar experiment which they aborted (I can only be
> > described as catastrophy since the engine neither scaled nor was it
> > resistant to DOS attacks) after _one_ day and right now I see the same
> > happen again for OpenSolaris.org (yes yes, right now it's not in the
> > final state and I shouldn't complain about work-in-progress... but
> > somehow it feels like "repeated history" for me)).
> 
> Sorry, we've already been through this, and the discussion is not going
> to be reopened at this point.

I disagree. If the Wiki causes _major_ disruption for projects and
communites compared to the current Jive engine then we have to revisit
this discussion and may have to choose a _working_ alternative. Using
the current state of the XWiki on hub.opensolaris.org as
http://www.opensolaris.org/ is something which I would challange at OGB
level if neccesary (and I think we'll get substancial complains from
other project leads once they realise what's going on (again, that was
the case at mozilla.org where the project owners forced the removal of
the Wiki within _one_ day)).

> To address your immediate point, the XWiki site is *not* intended for
> bulk uploads of HTML pages, because it is very difficult to make them
> look like an integrated part of the site.  The intention is that people
> will use the XWiki functionality to maintain their community's pages.

The HTML pages (generated from DocBook) _are_ our community pages. We
need them as integrated part of our project and preferable not hosted
"elsewhere".

> We will probably provide a separate site for 'bulk uploads' of the sort
> you describe, something along the lines of cr.opensolaris.org but for
> HTML and tarballs.  We don't yet have an ETA for that though.

If we can't use or upload HTML pages as an integrated part of the
Wiki... why should we have the Wiki then at all ? The Wiki should make
things better than the current Jive engine and not _worse_ (originally I
couldn't imagine something "worse then Jive" ... but it looks the
current XWiki stuff has some holes as large as the milky way... ;-( ).

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Bye,
Roland

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