Alan Burlison wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Does hub have to be part of the new name ?
Yes, because the opensolaris.org and www.opensolaris.org hostnames are
already in use by the current portal and Jive, which both live inside
the same webserver. We'll be turning off the portal part, but Jive will
be remaining.
That isn't a useful answer. I really don't care wither they are in
the same webserver or the same whatever. You need to think about how
this looks - URLs are important and it is really important that the
expected things works. That means http://www. should work.
We have to deal with the realities of the existing infrastructure. And
the www.opensolaris.org name still be will be used for Jive,
You also have to deal with the reality of the rest of the internet and
users will expect http://opensolaris.org and http://www.opensolaris.org
to work. Not doing so is just no acceptable. Neither is it acceptable
for the forums to break or for you not to provide the URL redirection.
These are a basic requirements for me and they probably weren't
written now because they were so basic they were assumed.
If you can't make it work then maybe we won't have the correct
technology mix and something needs to be re-evaluated.
> and for the
> redirects that the community asked us to provide from the old pages to
> the new ones.
So its all our fault because we asked to help our users, thanks!
Please step back from the implementation details and try and look at
this from the view of those that create the content and the existing and
new users to the site.
Why hub ? Rather than wiki ?
Because we don't want to name the community pages after the technology
that we used to implement them,
Except that is exactly what you are doing. Where as the existing URLs
don't reveal any underlying technology.
We aren't naming the site after the technology. The URLs are a
different matter, as they are governed by the package we are using.
2) Why can't we just keep the old names ? Is XWiki not flexible
enough that we have to have these new less hierarchical looking
names with + signs in them ?
No, that's just the way it works.
That answer tells me it isn't flexible enough for us to keep the old
names, or you don't know how to make it do so or don't care to do so.
I don't know of any Wiki package that allows you complete flexibility in
how URLs are formed. And as I said before, we are trying as far as
possible to use a 'vanilla' XWiki install.
So what about the thing we are currently using that looks like a wiki to
me as a user ?
You have explain this sufficiently I'll let this part drop. I'm not
happy about it. However I doubt there is anything much that can be done
short of permanently uptting in place URL rewriting (not redirecting)
rules that need updating when ever new communities,projects or user
groups are created.
The site name and the syntax of the URLs under it aren't the same thing.
As far as an user not highly versed in W3C recommendations and exact URL
syntax is concerened they are the same thing.
I understand and agree with why you have choosen not to use
wiki.opensolaris.org though.
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Darren J Moffat
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