2010/4/14 ольга крыжановская <olga.kryzhanov...@gmail.com>:
> Martin, this world becomes only bitter cold if people let it down. If
> the community, Oracle included, sticks together and cooperates then
> the world may become a warmer, more friendly place to all of us.


Hi Olga, no.
The only thing that helped me was moving eastwards to Ukraine.
And in a few years I probably need to go to Siberia!!


> For your question about 'shipping disks for free' and a note to Derek/Valerie:
> Our family get the latest Suse DVD (Tshirts and other gimmicks
> included) by express mail each time a new one is released. It comes
> from a Suse program to reward those who have made significant
> contributions to the Suse distribution.


Aha, cool.
Such a model makes great sense to me!
But it should be contribution-based.
Not until now, that they must ship hundreds of thousands (or whatever
the number was, probably lower) CD's around.
Sun always did that, also with their other programs. Shipping to
Europe must have been $5 each time. This is a lot of money-burning, as
they did it with every unknown small maybe_but_probably_not customer.

They also sent me 5 T-shirts (Java or Solaris 10, not even OpenSolaris).
Not based on any contributions.

How can this have been sustainable?



priveti,
%martin


> Derek/Valerie: Is it feasible to set up a similar program for
> Opensolaris to reward those who significantly contributed to
> Opensolaris?
>
> Olga
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Martin Bochnig <mar...@martux.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Andras Barna <andras.ba...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
>>
>> Oh, thanks for the link.
>> Maybe Oracle could learn from them. But I'm afraid, they could rather
>> learn from Oracle!
>> Because if they ship stuff around for free, work for free and want to
>> benefit more people, and not just their own pockets, then they are
>> doomed to end, where Sun has.
>>
>> Bitter-cold world.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martin Bochnig <mar...@martux.org> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett
>>>> <pkch...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero <derek.cic...@oracle.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping 
>>>>>> program at
>>>>>> this time. As a result, we have removed all links and icons from the
>>>>>> opensolaris.org site. If you would like to download OpenSolaris, please
>>>>>> visit the Downloads page at
>>>>>> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/downloads.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that one coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next on this channel: Source code access on a paid subscription level
>>>>> and you have to pay $$$ per incident if you want to contribute to ON
>>>>>>;-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris, which Linuex distro offers such a program, where they ship CD's
>>>> all over the planet, FOR free [for YOU]?
>>>>
>>>> You have a link?
>>>>
>>>> If the original message would have been "download section is now
>>>> restricted access to buyers only", then I would be more on your logic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> %martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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