Hello Michael, Le Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:10:35 +0930, Michael Wheatland <[email protected]> a écrit :
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Charles-H. Schulz < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me where does this come from? Where this decision > > > > > has been discussed and taken and by whom? The fact that we > > > > > don't use the OOo site is to satisfy a request that has > > > > > nothing to do with quality. > > > > > > > > > > We are an open source project, why should we prevent somebody > > > > > to contribute for whatever reason? what are the criteria for > > > > > the quality you're talking about, where are they written, who > > > > > is the person giving the approval? That would be funny that > > > > > people could contribute to OOo but not to LibO... > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a work in progress. We will be consulting with all of the > > > > stakeholders once things settle down and LibO3.3 has been > > > > released. Rest assured we will be able to change things once a > > > > community consensus has been reached. > > > > > > > > We did not want to move focus away from the important areas of > > > > community development at the moment. Hence the comment > > > > previously. > > > > > > > > Stay tuned > > > > > > I must say that I'm left perplexed by all this. Michael, would you > > mind telling us: > > - who is "We" as "we did not want to move focus away" > > - why this secrecy? Do you remember it's an open source project? > > - "we will be consulting with all of the stakeholders... " so let me > > rephrase: you're doing something apparently in secret then will > > battle hard to defend it in front of the community? That's about > > the most unproductive thing I can think of here, and it reminds me > > of the Drupal misunderstanding. Nobody has ever talked about an > > extension store/website, although it's definitely something we need > > to address. But working this way around just does not help. > > > > > I don't want to seem rude, but there seems to be a disproportionate > amount of 'push back' within the website mailing list, while groups > and individuals are working hard to build a better future for our > community. Regardless of the development style, or whether it is > received well from the community during consultation and even if > ideas are not implemented, could I suggest everybody attempts to take > an encouraging attitude towards new ideas and people willing to put > hard work in to any idea or project. It is the responsibility of the > people doing the work to consult and present their idea and > development to the community at which point feedback and (hopefully) > constructive criticism will always occur. (This is not a direct > reference to Charles, but a feeling that I have from participating in > and watching the mailing lists). Certainly so Michael, what is wanted is a contributions-based culture. > > There is no secrecy involved with this or any other > ideas/developments I am involved in. It was an idea floated inside > the website mailing list, wiki pages and instant chat discussions > between the website team (Not IRC unfortunately). > The idea was roughed out and as we have made clear through the website > mailing list a number of times it is very easy to create a rapid > prototype to 'show' the idea rather than tell it. Okay, so indeed it's not exactly secrecy :-) Would you mind pointing out some of the wiki pages ? Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
