Hi Bernhard, *, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Bernhard Dippold <[email protected]> wrote: > > The mail message number at the TDF mail archive is not the message number in > the mails header and thus not the one to be used to get a specific mail.
The archiving is done by a different software than the mailinglist handling. So not sure whether there is a way to guarantee consistency even if we tried. That was one of the reasons to add the mail-archive.com headers - although they are not available instantly, but only after the cronjobs at mail-archive.com are run, so there's always a little delay until those work. > So here is the difference 17 mails. > > On the design list it's 8 mails: It would take considerable amount of work to align them, and unless it is really a one-time discrepancy (not sure about that, maybe the list also counts received but not-moderated-through messages and hence will get out of sync again once someone doesn't let spam pass. > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg02422.html refers to > (Return-Path) > design+bounces-2430-bernhard=familie-dippold...@global.libreoffice.org > and can be got via [email protected] > > Are there some mails stripped from the archives? Well - no idea - would be a volunteer's task to first check what numbers are missing from the index/whether the index commands return each and every message or whether there are skips already. > Perhaps test mails from the first beginning? Maybe for one or two lists, but not for the ones that were created later on like design (at least I don't know a reason why there should be 8 "test" or whatever messages that would then have been removed) > Should we provide consistent mail numbers, allowing people to refer to the > right mail numbers from the archive? Referring to mails by ID like that is very fragile, better use msg-id or a hash like from mail-archive.com, that way you can restore them. When you only rely on arbitrary web-archive numbers/urls, like OOo did, you end up with non-working links once the archive is moved to another engine/infrastructure,... (mail-archive.com hashes/links are urlsafe bencoded sha1sums of msg-id & list-address) So when there are "skip" in the lists's own index, then there is no way at all to keep them in sync. When they are continuous without exception, then it is a question of what messages are missing from the archive. (But I won't do this comparison myself for sure :-) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
