On 9/18/19 8:03 PM, Guilhem Moulin wrote:

>    + XMPP is also provided by JPBerlin for members; a quote from Sophie's
>      mails to the members ml:
>        . a Jabber/XMPP address for instant messaging
>        . a SIP/VoIP account for voice conferencing

Sorry, but they never worked for normal users like me. You have to
configure them to work with clients as the standard configuration does
not work, but whatever you do the client is unable to connect. Please do
consider people with limited tech capabilities.

>    + guilhem: would just like to agree on something that's not telegram.
>      Brett: would just need to be as usable as telegram then

AFAIK, Mattermost just works on desktop and mobile, even for people like
me with limited tech capabilities. Riot is way more complex, and IRC for
me is out of discussion (exactly as Telegram for Guilhem) for technical
reasons.

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