Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:59:42 +0200
From: Jens Hatlak <hat...@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: mechsys
Subject: Re: Update Requested for: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/solaris.html


mechsys wrote:
> May I please request that you, as the designated point of contact, review and 
> update the "Mozilla Plugin Support on Solaris (SPARC)" page?

I cannot make any direct changes to that site. Furthermore, I'm only the 
"designated point of contact" because I was the first and maybe only one 
who contacted the site owner and provided updated information concerning 
Sparc/Solaris. That was years ago when I was still active at university. 
Today, I no longer have access to any of these machines. I should also 
note that I never had access to a single x86 Solaris machine.

> 1. The page name only defines applicability for Solaris SPARC:
> 
>   "Mozilla Plugin Support on Solaris (SPARC)"
> 
> All four plugins vendors have separate binaries for Solaris X86. The page  
> name, Mozilla internal links, and meta-tags re search spiders should be:
> 
>   "Mozilla Plugin Support for Solaris SPARC and for Solaris X86"

Please discuss that with the site owner. If you can provide information 
for x86 Solaris, then tell him not me. As I see it, the page is titled 
as such because I provided info for Sparc but no-one provided info for 
x86. And with info I mean reliable, tested info. As stated above, I 
never had access to a x86 Solaris machine. And since I see no sense in 
copying information from some other website without having checked 
whether it installs/works as stated, I will certainly not be the one to 
report anything like that to the site owner.

> 2. All four plugins vendors have separate binaries for Solaris X86. Sun has 
> separate download links for Java on Solaris SPARC and Solaris X86. The other 
> three vendors appear to read the browser information and present the correct 
> binary from a common download page. Regardless, from a human factors 
> standpoint, an explicit link for each binary class would be brain useful.

Explicit links are bound to change. Neither the site owner nor me have 
the time to re-check and update the links when they change. If you are 
willing to do that, please contact the site owner.

> 3. The instructions are useful but inconsistent. Paths, permissions, link 
> permissions (great point!), and file locations are a larger issue, but  
> whatever the pattern, there are good reasons for it to be consistent across 
> plugins. Accordingly, the installation instructions for Adobe Acrobat Reader 
> should be standardized and replicated across all plugin instructions. There 
> is 
> much more to this than I have suggested here. (Ask me if it matters to you.)

 From my point of view, some is better than nothing. And there would be 
nothing if I hadn't contacted the site owner and asked him to put the 
information that I had verified on PluginDoc. If you want to improve 
what's there, feel free to make suggestions and ask the site owner to 
implement them. It's just that I am the wrong one to ask here. I do only 
know Sparc/Solaris and even there I cannot do more than tell from my 
experience and recollection.

You know, everyone is free to contact the site owner. The fact that 
there is so little information on the PluginDoc Solaris page is a pretty 
good sign that there is just no-one who either knows more concerning the 
topic or is willing to share that information.

> 4. Flash has finally moved from 7.x to 9.x , although it _still_ may not work 
> at major sites like CNN (which at least now is not solely Windows Media):
> (...)
> 5. The RealPlayer link is incorrect. RealPlayer is now supported for Solaris. 
> The current link points to a Mac OS-X version (which never worked for me),  
> with no hint that a Solaris version exists. The link below is the actual 
> download page:
> (...)

I understand that you tested the plugins from the sources you provided. 
If that is the case, feel free to contact the site owner and provide 
detailed instructions how to install and setup those.

> 6. Do you have a developer or maintenance partner for plugin compatibility at 
> Sun? They really should have a designated point of contact to help you at 
> Mozilla get on top of the plugin issue. It is a major user experience deficit 
> for Solaris. Please let me know if you may wish my assistance in this regard.

I never had a direct contact partner at Sun. All I did was searching the 
sites of the respective plugin vendors for Sparc/Solaris binaries and 
trying to figure out how to install them. All by myself. When I felt 
confident that I had done everything right I mailed the PluginDoc site 
owner my experiences. Since I was the only one who did that, he took my 
word for granted and put the information online. Some time later he 
asked me if he could add my email address to the list of contact persons 
and I said yes. That's all. I know that this cannot be understood just 
by visiting the page but I guess it's better than leaving the site owner 
in the position to answer questions about operating systems he never 
even saw running.

Greetings,

Jens
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