true.......

I think it is also relevant because Bush is no longer president.  When the 
leader of a country identifies himself as a 'christian' (whether or not he acts 
like it) and does it for purely political reasons as Bush did, he controls the 
direction of the country.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brenda Crowder 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:08 AM
  Subject: {Dawgs/Dittos} Re: the end of Christian America - part 1


  That is because the Christians do not act like the Christ. :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: subana 



  This is a long article and since I'm not sure if MSNTV has a problem with 
Newsweek's website, I'll send the rest of the article in another message.  If 
you're not interested, just delete the other message........

  The End of Christian America


      
  Charles Gullung / Photonica-Getty Images 
  RELIGION

  The percentage of self-identified Christians has fallen 10 points in the past 
two decades. How that statistic explains who we are now-and what, as a nation, 
we are about to become.

  By Jon Meacham | NEWSWEEK
  Published Apr 4, 2009 
  From the magazine issue dated Apr 13, 2009

  It was a small detail, a point of comparison buried in the fifth paragraph on 
the 17th page of a 24-page summary of the 2009 American Religious 
Identification Survey. But as R. Albert Mohler Jr.-president of the Southern 
Baptist Theological Seminary, one of the largest on earth-read over the 
document after its release in March, he was struck by a single sentence. For a 
believer like Mohler-a starched, unflinchingly conservative Christian, steeped 
in the theology of his particular province of the faith, devoted to producing 
ministers who will preach the inerrancy of the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus 
Christ as the only means to eternal life-the central news of the survey was 
troubling enough: the number of Americans who claim no religious affiliation 
has nearly doubled since 1990, rising from 8 to 15 percent. Then came the point 
he could not get out of his mind: while the unaffiliated have historically been 
concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, the report said, "this pattern has now 
changed, and the Northeast emerged in 2008 as the new stronghold of the 
religiously unidentified." As Mohler saw it, the historic foundation of 
America's religious culture was cracking.
  "That really hit me hard," he told me last week. "The Northwest was never as 
religious, never as congregationalized, as the Northeast, which was the 
foundation, the home base, of American religion. To lose New England struck me 
as momentous." Turning the report over in his mind, Mohler posted a despairing 
online column on the eve of Holy Week lamenting the decline-and, by 
implication, the imminent fall-of an America shaped and suffused by 
Christianity. "A remarkable culture-shift has taken place around us," Mohler 
wrote. "The most basic contours of American culture have been radically 
altered. The so-called Judeo-Christian consensus of the last millennium has 
given way to a post-modern, post-Christian, post-Western cultural crisis which 
threatens the very heart of our culture." When Mohler and I spoke in the days 
after he wrote this, he had grown even gloomier. "Clearly, there is a new 
narrative, a post-Christian narrative, that is animating large portions of this 
society," he said from his office on campus in Louisville, Ky.

  There it was, an old term with new urgency: post-Christian. This is not to 
say that the Christian God is dead, but that he is less of a force in American 
politics and culture than at any other time in recent memory. To the surprise 
of liberals who fear the advent of an evangelical theocracy and to the dismay 
of religious conservatives who long to see their faith more fully expressed in 
public life, Christians are now making up a declining percentage of the 
American population.

  According to the American Religious Identification Survey that got Mohler's 
attention, the percentage of self-identified Christians has fallen 10 
percentage points since 1990, from 86 to 76 percent. The Jewish population is 
1.2 percent; the Muslim, 0.6 percent. A separate Pew Forum poll echoed the ARIS 
finding, reporting that the percentage of people who say they are unaffiliated 
with any particular faith has doubled in recent years, to 16 percent; in terms 
of voting, this group grew from 5 percent in 1988 to 12 percent in 2008-roughly 
the same percentage of the electorate as African-Americans. (Seventy-five 
percent of unaffiliated voters chose Barack Obama, a Christian.) Meanwhile, the 
number of people willing to describe themselves as atheist or agnostic has 
increased about fourfold from 1990 to 2009, from 1 million to about 3.6 
million. (That is about double the number of, say, Episcopalians in the United 
States.)

  While we remain a nation decisively shaped by religious faith, our politics 
and our culture are, in the main, less influenced by movements and arguments of 
an explicitly Christian character than they were even five years ago. I think 
this is a good thing-good for our political culture, which, as the American 
Founders saw, is complex and charged enough without attempting to compel or 
coerce religious belief or observance. It is good for Christianity, too, in 
that many Christians are rediscovering the virtues of a separation of church 
and state that protects what Roger Williams, who founded Rhode Island as a 
haven for religious dissenters, called "the garden of the church" from "the 
wilderness of the world." As crucial as religion has been and is to the life of 
the nation, America's unifying force has never been a specific faith, but a 
commitment to freedom-not least freedom of conscience. At our best, we single 
religion out for neither particular help nor particular harm; we have 
historically treated faith-based arguments as one element among many in the 
republican sphere of debate and decision. The decline and fall of the modern 
religious right's notion of a Christian America creates a calmer political 
environment and, for many believers, may help open the way for a more 
theologically serious religious life.
  Let's be clear: while the percentage of Christians may be shrinking, rumors 
of the death of Christianity are greatly exaggerated. Being less Christian does 
not necessarily mean that America is post-Christian. A third of Americans say 
they are born again; this figure, along with the decline of politically 
moderate-to liberal mainline Protestants, led the ARIS authors to note that 
"these trends . suggest a movement towards more conservative beliefs and 
particularly to a more 'evangelical' outlook among Christians." With rising 
numbers of Hispanic immigrants bolstering the Roman Catholic Church in America, 
and given the popularity of Pentecostalism, a rapidly growing Christian milieu 
in the United States and globally, there is no doubt that the nation remains 
vibrantly religious-far more so, for instance, than Europe.

  Still, in the new NEWSWEEK Poll, fewer people now think of the United States 
as a "Christian nation" than did so when George W. Bush was president (62 
percent in 2009 versus 69 percent in 2008). Two thirds of the public (68 
percent) now say religion is "losing influence" in American society, while just 
19 percent say religion's influence is on the rise. The proportion of Americans 
who think religion "can answer all or most of today's problems" is now at a 
historic low of 48 percent. During the Bush 43 and Clinton years, that figure 
never dropped below 58 percent.

  Many conservative Christians believe they have lost the battles over issues 
such as abortion, school prayer and even same-sex marriage, and that the 
country has now entered a post-Christian phase. Christopher Hitchens -a friend 
and possibly the most charming provocateur you will ever meet-wrote a hugely 
popular atheist tract a few years ago, "God Is Not Great." As an observant (if 
deeply flawed) Episcopalian, I disagree with many of Hitchens's arguments-I do 
not think it is productive to dismiss religious belief as superstitious and 
wrong-but he is a man of rigorous intellectual honesty who, on a recent journey 
to Texas, reported hearing evangelical mutterings about the advent of a 
"post-Christian" America.

  To be post-Christian has meant different things at different times. In 1886, 
The Atlantic Monthly described George Eliot as "post-Christian," using the term 
as a synonym for atheist or agnostic. The broader-and, for our purposes, most 
relevant-definition is that "post-Christian" characterizes a period of time 
that follows the decline of the importance of Christianity in a region or 
society. This use of the phrase first appeared in the 1929 book "America Set 
Free" by the German philosopher Hermann Keyserling.

  The term was popularized during what scholars call the "death of God" 
movement of the mid-1960s-a movement that is, in its way, still in motion. 
Drawing from Nietzsche's 19th-century declaration that "God is dead," a group 
of Protestant theologians held that, essentially, Christianity would have to 
survive without an orthodox understanding of God. Tom Altizer, a religion 
professor at Emory University, was a key member of the Godless Christianity 
movement, and he traces its intellectual roots first to Kierkegaard and then to 
Nietzsche. For Altizer, a post-Christian era is one in which "both Christianity 
and religion itself are unshackled from their previous historical grounds." In 
1992 the critic Harold Bloom published a book titled "The American Religion: 
The Emergence of the Post-Christian Nation." In it he cites William James's 
definition of religion in "The Varieties of Religious Experience": "Religion . 
shall mean for us the feelings, acts, and experiences of individual men in 
their solitude, so far as they apprehend themselves to stand in relation to 
whatever they consider the divine."

  Which is precisely what most troubles Mohler. "The post-Christian narrative 
is radically different; it offers spirituality, however defined, without 
binding authority," he told me. "It is based on an understanding of history 
that presumes a less tolerant past and a more tolerant future, with the present 
as an important transitional step." The present, in this sense, is less about 
the death of God and more about the birth of many gods. The rising numbers of 
religiously unaffiliated Americans are people more apt to call themselves 
"spiritual" rather than "religious." (In the new NEWSWEEK Poll, 30 percent 
describe themselves this way, up from 24 percent in 2005.)

  Roughly put, the Christian narrative is the story of humankind as chronicled 
in the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament-the drama of creation, fall and 
redemption. The orthodox tend to try to live their lives in accordance with the 
general behavioral principles of the Bible (or at least the principles they 
find there of which they approve) and anticipate the ultimate judgment of God-a 
judgment that could well determine whether they spend eternity in heaven or in 
hell.

  What, then, does it mean to talk of "Christian America"? Evangelical 
Christians have long believed that the United States should be a nation whose 
political life is based upon and governed by their interpretation of biblical 
and theological principles. If the church believes drinking to be a sin, for 
instance, then the laws of the state should ban the consumption of alcohol. If 
the church believes the theory of evolution conflicts with a literal reading of 
the Book of Genesis, then the public schools should tailor their lessons 
accordingly. If the church believes abortion should be outlawed, then the 
legislatures and courts of the land should follow suit. The intensity of 
feeling about how Christian the nation should be has ebbed and flowed since 
Jamestown; there is, as the Bible says, no thing new under the sun. For more 
than 40 years, the debate that began with the Supreme Court's decision to end 
mandatory school prayer in 1962 (and accelerated with the Roe v. Wade ruling 11 
years later) may not have been novel, but it has been ferocious. Fearing the 
coming of a Europe-like secular state, the right longed to engineer a return to 
what it believed was a Christian America of yore.

  But that project has failed, at least for now. In Texas, authorities have 
decided to side with science, not theology, in a dispute over the teaching of 
evolution. The terrible economic times have not led to an increase in church 
attendance. In Iowa last Friday, the state Supreme Court ruled against a ban on 
same-sex marriage, a defeat for religious conservatives. Such evidence is what 
has believers fretting about the possibility of an age dominated by a newly 
muscular secularism. "The moral teachings of Christianity have exerted an 
incalculable influence on Western civilization," Mohler says. "As those moral 
teachings fade into cultural memory, a secularized morality takes their place. 
Once Christianity is abandoned by a significant portion of the population, the 
moral landscape necessarily changes. For the better part of the 20th century, 
the nations of Western Europe led the way in the abandonment of Christian 
commitments. Christian moral reflexes and moral principles gave way to the 
loosening grip of a Christian memory. Now even that Christian memory is absent 
from the lives of millions."

  Religious doubt and diversity have, however, always been quintessentially 
American. Alexis de Tocqueville said that "the religious atmosphere of the 
country was the first thing that struck me on arrival in the United States," 
but he also discovered a "great depth of doubt and indifference" to faith. 
Jefferson had earlier captured the essence of the American spirit about 
religion when he observed that his statute for religious freedom in Virginia 
was "meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the 
Gentile, the Christian and the Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every 
denomination"-and those of no faith whatever. The American culture of religious 
liberty helped create a busy free market of faith: by disestablishing churches, 
the nation made religion more popular, not less.

  America, then, is not a post-religious society-and cannot be as long as there 
are people in it, for faith is an intrinsic human impulse. The belief in an 
order or a reality beyond time and space is ancient and enduring. "All men," 
said Homer, "need the gods." The essential political and cultural question is 
to what extent those gods-or, more accurately, a particular generation's 
understanding of those gods-should determine the nature of life in a given time 
and place.

  If we apply an Augustinian test of nationhood to ourselves, we find that 
liberty, not religion, is what holds us together. In "The City of God," 
Augustine -converted sinner and bishop of Hippo-said that a nation should be 
defined as "a multitude of rational beings in common agreement as to the 
objects of their love." What we value most highly-what we collectively love 
most-is thus the central test of the social contract.

  http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583

  

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